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Old 3-Jun-2006   #1
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Carving bits

Hope nobody minds, but this is a shameless plug for Dale's carving tools. I had been using the type of burrs shown in the first pic below on a die grinder, and just wasn't that happy with it. After working with Mike Page for a morning, I realized how much more I could do with the proper tools. He was using a Samurai bit, and a Ninja bit, both sold by Dale Cochoy. I ordered a new one called the Ninja Master (pics 2 and 3)....kind of a cross between the two Mike uses. I played with it for the first time today, and boy is it sweet! It is easily controllable, but goes through wood like butter. I think I could take down a full-sized tree with it! No chatter or vibration at 24,000 rpm, just smooth carving with wood flying off the tree.

Thanks Dale, from a happy customer.

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The Ninja Master looks to fun!!
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Brian, that is a "bit" of all right
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Old 4-Jun-2006   #4
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I just happened to notice this Brian. Thanks!
As I told you, YOU bought the first one sold in the USA. They were well received at the Florida state show last weekend.
The NINJA has been phased out and replaced withthe Ninja Master. 4 cutters instead of 3 in Ninja, and a bit bigger in size. "BETWEEN" the Ninja and Samurai is a perfect description. The cutting heads ( carbide) are the same size as older Ninja, and are a bit smaller than heads on Samurai.

BTW, the milling tool shown in pic 1 ( which come in many shapes/sizes) is a pretty good item for beginners to get into carving ( as are the burrs). You don't need to worry as much about getting out of control. The key to buying carvers for beginners using die grinders is in the amount ofcutting surfaces and the angle of them, for instance, the milling tool has several cutting surfaces and they are at a low angle, in contrast to router bis that have only two surfaces and are at a 90 degree angle. Router bits are MUCH more aggressive but you have to seriously watch control!
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P.S. Here's a pic of the new Ninja Master next to the Samurai that Brian spoke of.
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Carvings one area of Bonsai that frightens the heck out of me, I've practised on some lesser stock and it got ugly on occasion, I'm too scared to touch anything decent with a power tool.
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Old 5-Jun-2006   #6
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Ozzie,
Thats perfectly fine. Not everyone is a carver or likes trees with a lot of carving. Many bonsai folks are reluctant to dive in.
Yes, it IS dangerous. ALL power tools are dangerous especially when not used for there normal intentions as we often do in bonsai. You, or your tree, can be damaged in the blink of an eye through no ones fault but your own, although in this day and age blaming your problems on someone else is the norm.
My suggestion to you is to start off with a Dremel-type tool and a few bits. There is a WWWWORLD of difference between a Dremel and a Die Grinder, kinda like the difference between a hand saw and a table saw!!

I've said this before and I'll repeat it again. I have three rules:

1. NEVER carve without eye protection. NEVERRRR!
It's also an excellent idea to use a nose/mouth cover of some type also as many woods are toxic and they will ALL cause brething/sneezing problems.
Besides...no demonstrator ever looked cool with snot running down his upper lip!
2. NEVER let anyone talk to you while you are carving!! NEVER
3. NEVER talk to anyone, or a group, while you are carving. Damage to you or your tree can happen in a fraction of a second if you look away.

Theres a couple other SUGGESTIONS I have:
1. Watch out for loose clothing around a 25,000 rpm tool!!.
2. Don't PUSH!!, let the tool do the work! I can't believe how many ruined tools I see that are bent, burned,scratched,broken in a few short minutes by "Loggers".
3. Here's an important one I've learned, and I think KEY to good carving. ALWAYS try to have contact between your carving tool(Die grinder) and the tree, even if it is just a pinky touching the tree. Control will increase enourmously!

Carve on dudes!
Dale

P.S. One more rule I forgot.....
Never hold a Jack Russell pup in your lap while carving
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