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Old 15-Sep-2004   #1
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Which Tool?

If one were planning to make an addition to their tool kit, specifically the need of a tool to do some serious shari and trunk work, and you had to make a choice on one tool at this time which you you recomend? trunk splitter? Knob cutter? Other?
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My suggestion would be a good dremel tool...a chisel can work for trunk splitting, the dremel in my opinion is almost indispensible for shari, jin, and other carving type work...Plus it can be used to make a wound concave before sealing, thus replacing the knob cutter...

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I don't know what you have already, but I would begin with hand tools. a sharp knife would be my first choice. A folding grafting knife like this can be very useful. I would not use an expensive grafting tool for this purpose

JR-0190 Folding Grafting Knife

There are several types of specialized carving tools available in laminated steel; on the left a chisel, in the middle a jin-ing tool which is rather unique in that it can be pulled, leaving the blade behind your hand and the direction of force (very safe for making tapering jinand stripping bark) and the last is a knife that could replace the one above


JR-9159 Carving Tool Set

There are a couple of reasons I would suggest hand tools first. They are great to work with to get a feeling for the wood grain and won't remove too much material at one time. Even if you migrate to power tools later, you will also find them quite handy for cleaning up the marks left by power tools.

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Regarding the Dremel suggestion, I would recommend it.

The cordless models are very handy. I would suggest the new model with the NiMH batteries.

You won't find the bits you want at your Dremel dealer. Dale Cochoy sells some excellent bits for the 1/8" shaft. I'd start with the buzz-out wheel, and then let your perceived needs guide you as to others. The buzz-out wheel will do 90% of what you want.

If you're doing big trees with a LOT of carving, you'll need a die grinder.
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A Dremel tool..... so many different bits to work with. High speed rpms. Dremels are hard to beat. You can do heavy work with them or detailed work on a small scale. As a wood carver, I own 3 of them and use them on my bonsai when ever I need to do any "scaring" or "jin" work. Best wishes.
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I have a dremmel, but specifically I was thinking of something to start the rough work on this
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close in shot of the area needing carving
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What style do you have in mind for this tree? It doesn't seem that this is the front. Will it be a twin trunk, or possibly a bunjin?

Once you have identified the main trunkline you'll use, you would probably be marking on the trunk with chalk and then stripping the bark above that point. Maybe you'd also have a shari running down the trunk, possibly around it. It may not be possible to complete the shari in one step, but some virtuals might help if you could photograph the trunk from different angles in front of a clean backdrop, it would help.

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This tree will be brought to a workshop, and of course I will discuss it with the pro, but I feel it lends itself very well to bunjin.
The main trunk line runnning to the right has nice movement, and the apex has already begun to grow back over the trunk. What I feel most of the work involved will be jinning the lower branches, carving/shari of the area where you see that whorl of branches, and wiring/pulling the apex back over the center further. Of course, that is how I see it now. In the workshop, other things may be pointed out, and it may go in a different direction. My main point, is, I want to bring with me the tools to do the carving work, as I feel this is where I have the most to learn here, and the most work needing to be done. Of course I realize that it may not be possible to do all the carving, but I also dont want to go to the workshop, and not have the tools to get the job started.
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Ralph .. if you don't have a knob cutter, I think this will be the tool to do the meat of the work and fine tune with a sharp knife and dremel. When working with green wood you want to open it to the air do some basic carving but same the fine tuning for after the wood dries and shows you the grain a lil clearer.. also, checks in the dried wood will give you a lil direction with further carving.. enjoy..
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