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Old 2-May-2002   #1
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Rock made pots, are them Suiseki?

Well, I collected some volcanic rocks, and carved them to make out a pot, does it counts as suiseki? if not, they look nice, try it...
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Old 3-May-2002   #2
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Re: Rock made pots, are them Suiseki?

Jose,
I don't think this would qualify as suiseki. From what I have gleaned from this art style, the rock itself tells a tale of some kind of landscape, mountains, hills, waterfalls, huts, etc., not a container for plants.
I think the rock pot would be more akin to bonsai, although tradition seems to demand a ceramic container.
I create rock planters, too, either from pumice or other, carveable rock. It's a fun craft. Hopefully this image will show up on the post.

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Re: Rock made pots, are them Suiseki?

Hey Mitsy that's very artistic. I like the way you've grouped the succulents on that stone!
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Re: Rock made pots, are them Suiseki?

Thanks, TreeBay,
I have a large succulent collection, and the rocks seem to be perfect planters for them. Here is my first hypertufa creation, formed around a plastic crate. I want to utilize this material to create large rocks around my pond I will be building (hopefully) soon.

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Re: Rock made pots, are them Suiseki?

The hypertufa looks really convincing.

I made some large stones about a decade ago using a form of expanded metal draped over some supports. Expanded metal is very light but it has some pores in it to let the masonry through. This stuff was just aluminum and it came in some 3' or 4' wide rolls that could be cut with tin snips.

I made the rocks out of stucco, which is I believe what they use to make some of the long lasting amusement park displays. It can be colored with powdered dyes, but I still like the look of your hypertufa. Maybe that could go over the top.

At any rate, my 3x4' fieldstone is still sitting in the yard. I made it about 2' tall and it looks much larger because it was shaped to suggest that there is a large underground portion. It has bleached out somewhat because I didn't mix the dye into the stucco, I simply sprinkled it over the top with a sifter, so now it looks less like a fieldstone and more like a granite rock.

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Granite like great, Trinity River has some great granite. I need to start making rock, after the tons of stones I've brought home, and an injured rotor cuff, its time to just create my own!
Here is the pumice trickle tower I made for my koi. It has maidenhair ferns and Indian Rhubarb growing on it, now. Its easy, but hazardous to carve!

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Well, I am planning to make a pond also, but I wanted to have it surrounded by volcanic rocks, like a mountain and a waterfall, and in there make some "weeping willow's" bonsais, with their leaves glancing over the water, it seemed like a nice idea... Can you picture it? well if you can and you like it, and you ever do it, please at least send me a pic...

another thing, how about fosiles, are them suiseki? I have a rock with the form of a shell... if you like it I can post it...
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Re: Rock made pots, are them Suiseki?

Hi Jose, I think your confusing suiseki with displaying pretty stones. While the interest in both art forms are high, there are specific rules that govern each display. Suiseki are displayed in a suiban with sand or a wooden stand called a daiza. The stone is usually displayed as is or modified slightly by cutting the bottom to make the stand easier to construct. While a fossil could depict a rugged mountain scape, suiseki are usually water worn or sculpted by high desert winds. Read the first post "what is suiseki" and maybe check with the library for books on suiseki. Also check some of the photo's of the stones I have posted in the past. And finally, I would be most interested to see a pic of your fossil.
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Alright I get what suiseki is, at least that's what I think, so my problem was that I was a little bit too lazy to read the article from the begining... hehehe... my fault, I will send the pic of my stone as soon as I can... ok? So, until then...
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