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Old 26-Jan-2007   #21
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Very cool! You had your thinking beanie on that day.

I have a few other plantings like it taking space on my benches. I get a thrill out of hearing the groans from the conservative crowd
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Old 26-Jan-2007   #22
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I have a few other plantings like it taking space on my benches. I get a thrill out of hearing the groans from the conservative crowd


No groans from me, it's fresh and creative. I also see a photo of you (your avatar) holding a nice tree in a well selected pot so obviously you have the knack for that as well. What did you do first - normal pots or the creative alternatives?
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Old 26-Jan-2007   #23
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No groans from me, it's fresh and creative. I also see a photo of you (your avatar) holding a nice tree in a well selected pot so obviously you have the knack for that as well. What did you do first - normal pots or the creative alternatives?

First, I better give Walter Pall credit for taking the photo I use for my avatar He used it in a thread he posted in the IBC gallery, so I figured it was safe to use it here. The tree in that photo was collected from the same site as the juniper on the shovel; the pot is a Mike Hagedorn oval.

Back to your question though. When I started bonsai in 1989, Dan Robinson was my hero. I liked the idea of using collected material. I was living in the Ozarks of Southwest Missouri (Forsyth, Branson) and there was nothing in the way of bonsai pots unless you drove to Springfield, 65 miles away. There were a lot of ravines people dumped their trash down and lots of rusty old enameled metal dishes. These served as my first bonsai pots...free and recycled, what could be better?

I really wasn't concerned about whether my trees were in "official" bonsai pots or not, as my focus was mainly on the tree at the time. As I began to accumulate books and magazines, it slowly dawned on me that the idea was to get the tree into a bonsai pot eventually. So I went that route for a while. But I never lost sight of the fact that sometimes a bonsai pot really isn't always the best thing to put your tree in if you're focusing on the tree. And I'm a huge fan of Nick Lenz. When I saw what he was doing it almost made me quit, it was so good

I could have just said "I started with alternative pots first" and left out a lot of detail, but I think the doubters need to know a bit of the thought process that goes into using containers other than traditional when trying to understand what the appeal is in it. I'm a very informal person and sometimes people are disappointed by that. They want fancy elaborate speech and explanations about things and are put off by keeping it simple. They are the complicators and I will leave that to them. I like to be a facilitator and look for the simplest solution to my problems. I love low-tech and I like to have a good laugh once in a while. I see a lot of folks taking bonsai way too seriously sometimes and I think it's a real pity. Let's have fun with it and make a little fun at it once in a while
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Old 26-Jan-2007   #24
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"Actually, shovels are pretty useless for collecting from solid rock.."

Actually shovels are kind of useless in collecting from the ground in the forest too. I haven't used one in years.

I like the planting. Thought an old busted handle on the shovel, treated like a jin on a bonsai, would look kinda cool on this...
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I have a few other plantings like it taking space on my benches. I get a thrill out of hearing the groans from the conservative crowd


You do and you do?!......well what are you waiting for, lets see them!
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Back to your question though. When I started bonsai in 1989, Dan Robinson was my hero. I liked the idea of using collected material. I was living in the Ozarks of Southwest Missouri (Forsyth, Branson) and there was nothing in the way of bonsai pots unless you drove to Springfield, 65 miles away. There were a lot of ravines people dumped their trash down and lots of rusty old enameled metal dishes. These served as my first bonsai pots...free and recycled, what could be better?


That's a great story - thank you for sharing. I have admitted before I am a fan of "alternative pots" and even more so now. I salute your efforts and thoughts - as well as the results.
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"Actually, shovels are pretty useless for collecting from solid rock.."

Actually shovels are kind of useless in collecting from the ground in the forest too. I haven't used one in years.

I like the planting. Thought an old busted handle on the shovel, treated like a jin on a bonsai, would look kinda cool on this...

They are a blunt tool, aren't they? Good for digging post holes, cement work and mining The one I used for this planting has some splinters left--they don't show up well in the photo. I have a couple other broken shovels that may have the perfect "jin" to place in the ferrule.
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You do and you do?!......well what are you waiting for, lets see them!

I'll see what I can do to get them photographed. The sun doesn't show itself much in the winter here in the Northwest
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That's a great story - thank you for sharing. I have admitted before I am a fan of "alternative pots" and even more so now. I salute your efforts and thoughts - as well as the results.

Thanks for the salute and good to see you're inspired. Maybe we'll see one of yours someday
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Here's a little planting I made the pot for; it was inspired by a rotted log that was planted with ferns along the path to the Pacific Rim Bonsai Collection. The stoneware "log" for this planting is about 8" long and has 3 drainholes along the bottom. The tree is a dwarf white spruce, Picea glauca, I found growing in a crack in limestone in Montana.

Guess I should mention I saw the planting back in 1996 and made the pot the winter of '99/2000. Collected the spruce spring of 2000.
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