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27-Sep-2002
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
 
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Yamadori Olive
Funny old Yamadori Olive, found as is, cut at the top, obviously a male…
 Any suggestions?
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27-Sep-2002
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And another Pic.
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27-Sep-2002
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Old Mister Crow
 
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Carmi,
Nice find. How I wish I could grow olives here in Seattle!!! I'd probably take this one back to the lower shoot, given that the trunk is relative straight and without taper above that. I would think that this could be feasible with this olive, but you probably know better than I do, given my very limited olive experience (one shohin while in California). -OMC
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27-Sep-2002
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I'd agree with OMC, right above or below that lowest branch would work well. I've read that olives handle large trunk chops easily, so it should be a good place to start getting some taper and movement.
Wish we had olives like that growing around us.
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27-Sep-2002
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Size?
Could you give us some idea of the dimensions? I have not figured out how to "count the pixels" yet! I am thinking that the lower branch or a number of new ones (olives tend to sprout new growth that low) might be used as sacrifice branches and allow you to fatten that trunk to a decent taper so that you would not need to chop it that low. Just a thought.
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27-Sep-2002
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Hi,
I agree with the other suggestors about cutting it down to the lower branch. Olives shoot back very vigorously, and by next spring you should have many new branches coming. I think it could be an intesting shohin, for a while. I'm curious; why do you call it a "yamadori". As I understand it, Yamadori is a region in Japan in the mountains, where the weather is quite fierce, and the trees which come from there are very tortuous.....and they are called Yamadori style trees. Jim Gremel in Northern California offers workshops on "Yamadori Style", and he usually uses Shimpaku Junipers, (although other material can be used too), but the trees are extremely twisted, tortuous and with much jin and shari. He's scheduled to come to the Midori Bonsai Club in S.Jose in November to give such a workshop. Again, why do you call your olive "yamadori"? Robert in Sta.Cruz |
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28-Sep-2002
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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Robert,
My mistake, I understood that all trees collected from the wild are called Yamadori. Then it should be called Jerusalem Mountain Olive. Thank you. Matt, Pleas rename the thread to Jerusalem Mountain Olive. Thank you.  Leesa, Thank you for your thought. One more picture with measurements:
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28-Sep-2002
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I have done a virt of your olive.I would put it in a grow box for a while,this will encourage it to sprout from everywhere as olives are want to do.Leave your top branch to grow a little to fatten it up then cut it back when it is about half as thick as your main trunk.I think it will make an interesting formal upright.
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28-Sep-2002
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Here's one I prepared earlier.This one still needs some more growth,it was in a growbox but I took it out and potted it so I could put in a bonsai show.It won first prize in the novice section.Lucky for me there were only five other entrants!
This is the result of only twelve months work from bare stump to the stage it is at now.Olives are quick growers and are great for beginners like me.I think I will pop him back into a grow box for a while longer. Last edited by treenut : 28-Sep-2002 at 08:30 AM. |
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As I understood it, all trees collected from the wild (or urban environs come to that) have come to be known as yamadori. Here in the UK clubs go on yamadori trips. Unless I'm very much mistaken they are not actually going to Japan... Carmi, I can't offer anything on your tree. I know nothing about olives. Best of luck with it though. Regards,
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