Virtuals For The 'Asking For Help In Advance' Thread

Kazuki

Heres somevirtuals, slightly smaller from the other thread, so you guys can load them: )

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Kazuki

and the other

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Carl_Bergstrom

Kazuki,

Awesome! I really like what you've done with these.

Not knowing the species well, I don't have a sense of what it will take to get the kind of trunk girth that you have on that second virtual - maybe some time in the ground or in a growing box?

All the best,
Old Mister Crow

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Kazuki

thanks OMC.. Im still clueless of how to bend the trunk on this tree since its brittle as hell..... Is removing one of the branches still an option?

bonsaial1

Hey Kazuki, Good virtuals. I like the new thread. It keeps us focused on the task at hand. I like the broom top on this tree, I would go that way. The small tree in the first shot has a more straight trunk. It could be straightened out to a formal upright very easily at this point. Broom trees will have absolutly straight trunks. In the second pic, you have exagerated the bend in the trunk for a reason I assume? Do the more manicured broom with a straight trunk, I think we will see a vast improvement.

Informal upright trunks require a different crown than a broom style tree. This is the reason OMC's virtual of Leesa's tree ended up looking alot like the virtual that I did. Different trunks just beg for certain crowns. It's hard to not put an angular crown on a literati trunk,

Good luck, Bonsaial

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Carl_Bergstrom

Hi Kazuki,

I agree with Al on this one.

(Yeah, yeah, next thing you know they'll be ice skating in Hell.)

Anyway, here's a virtual I scrapped together to show you how I envision the tree. You'd already done most of the work in your virtual. I just put in a pot of a shape that I like for broom-style trees, straighted it out (not quite perfectly, but that was just a mistake on my part), brought the trunk out to where it will be by the time you get this much foliage, and trimmed a bit.

I've never done a broom-style tree before, in real life or even in a virtual. I'm not sure I got the canopy shape quite right. What do you think? What would you do differently?

-Old Mister Crow

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Kazuki

So I guess both branches are staying, am I correct?
I still need some suggestions on show to get the trunk straight as possible, since I cant wire it or anything.

Kazuki

Carl_Bergstrom

I think so, if that fork is where you want the broom to split out.



Hmm...the tree will straighten a bit as it thickens. You don't need to bend it radically. What's the best way? A branch bender? . If it was a super-brittle maple I'd do with guy wires and gradual growth. Will that work here? I don't know, because I don't know this particular species.

Who can help out? Al, Matt, others?

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Kazuki

I kinda wanna do this type of thing to the Japanese Red Pine, even though the sketch posted is a Japanese Five Needled Pine, or Goyoumatsu. I belive its a bunjin style... or so says the caption in the book right there right next to the tree.
Caption:
Bunjin Ki = Bunjin style tree
Goyoumatsu= Japanese Five Needled Pine

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