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Air Assault All The Way.
Join Date: Mar-2004
Location: Huntersville, NC (near Charlotte)
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 7-8
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Considering the area you live in (if that's where you collected it) and the shape of the leaf, I'd say it's an American Hornbeam.
Thejimmyrigger, A v-cut is primarily used to induce profilic shoots to form a broom-style bonsai. I doubt there is any other technique that could even come close . I don't know how long you have been doing bonsai, but I promise you that some of the "roughest" training for bonsai is what makes the best trees. Just look at the work of Kimura. He is about as manipulative as anybody, but he makes wonders. Take care, John
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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Most definitely not an American Hornbeam. That species has smooth grey blue bark, not plated coarse bark like this.
Could be hophornbeam, but more likely a species of elm, as Fred L. said. LEaves are too elongated to be a hornbeam species. |
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My trees hide from me!
Join Date: May-2004
Location: Ocean Springs, MS
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 8b
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I have recently performed a horizontal trunck chop on some stock I have. I did this to increase the chance of having back-budding occur in acceptable locations. I am planning to introdece a "V" chop in between the best two shoots. Has anyone tried this or have any opinion on this method.
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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That's definitely an Elm.
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Air Assault All The Way.
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http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLandingES/Ecology/mpages/american_hornbeam.htm
Look at the attached site. If that leaf doesn't look like a hornbeam, I'm dreaming. The bark on the other hand looks more like a young shagbark hickory (but the leaves would be smooth). I forgot about the trunk pic earlier.
Where was this collected from? That would help a lot. It's either some sort of hornbeam or an elm. John
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Air Assault All The Way.
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http://www.oplin.lib.oh.us/products/tree/leaf/byleaf.html
Here is a great resource to identify by leaf:
http://www.oplin.lib.oh.us/products...eaf/byleaf.html John
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Propagation Idiot Savant
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Can V cutting techniques be used on Ficus with any success?
TIA
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bonsaiTALK Expert
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John, I'm with you on the hornbeam or elm. Only it's the hophornbeam (ostrya virginiana) not the capinus caroliniana blue beech).
We need a better picture of a leaf. The american elm leaf has an asymmetrical base while the hophornbeam has a symmetrical base. The hophornbeam also has a more pointed tip. If the trunk is 'shaggy' like it looks in the picture, then it is most likely the American Hophornbeam. A nice clean picture of several leaves on one branch would be great. Deacon |
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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Collection Site
Hi,
This tree was collected in Little Rock Arkansas. I have made the V chop at more of an angle, secured the site to inhibit bulging, and placed sphagnun moss at cut to prevent drying. I have oak, elm and hisckory trees in my yard. I've felt like it was an elm, but I don't know. Any other ideas to promote growth at chop? I appreciate everyone's responses and look forward to others. V. |
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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Collection Site
Hi,
This tree was collected in Little Rock, Arkansas. I have elm, oak, and hickory in my yard. I have made a more angled cut, wrapped the site to prevent bulging, and placed sphagnum moss at the cut site to prevent drying. Any other ideas to promote growth? I've felt the tree was an elm, but I'm not certain. I appreciate your responses and look forward to others. V. |
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