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17-Sep-2003
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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Unlucky Junifer
I had read some basics in pruning and wiring and thought I need some hands on practice. I bought a couple of junifers on a bargain sale on nearby nursery and tried to slug my knowledge out...
Here is what I had done to the poor junifer, and I thought this tree might be something more if I know exactly how to improve it.. I thought pf styling it in the informal upright position... All critiques are very much appreciated and welcomed! mAy it be soft and harsh! (as all training I have done :p ) The tree dimensions are 17" from the base and trunk is just 1" Mike Last edited by mikerosal : 17-Sep-2003 at 01:11 PM. |
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17-Sep-2003
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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Unlucky Junifer 2
another view of the tree, poor wiring isnt it? need more practice...
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17-Sep-2003
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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17-Sep-2003
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For some reason I can't see the first picture but from the other 2 it doesn't look like too bad of a start to me. If you got rid of the really tall leader and thinned out the foliage some more you can almost make out a good trunk line.
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17-Sep-2003
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Mike, do you know what kind of JUNIPER this is? For a tree with a 1 inch trunk, you will want to reduce the height to well under 12 inches, more like 7-10. Remember you can study the tree as long as you want, but when you cut its gone. I will try and give you a very simple vertual shortly.....
Check out the original thread, I gave you the way to remove it! Jay
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17-Sep-2003
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Kimmo Kivelä
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Hi!
I can see the first picture, and I think also that that isn't a bad start. I would prune the foliage quite much, and make it shorter like Jay said. |
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17-Sep-2003
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YOU CAN NOT RUSH TIME
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Mike this is a quick vertual from someone who isn't that good at it. I removed but did not add, I did bend a branch up to form a new leader. Also it looks like at the upper part of the left side of this tree that a branch is very thick. If so try to plan to remove it. As you look up the tree, the branches should get both shorter in length and thinner in girth... these are not hard facts but my guidelines...
Remember I too am a novice Jay
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18-Sep-2003
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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Hi All,
Thanks for the advices that you have posted. Jay, thanks for the virtual, it kinda giving me another view of the project than the one I am thinking of! By the way I wasnt able to catch the name of my junifer...it looks like a Green Mound but with just larger needles... For some reason I am very hesitant to prune it more as from my view I already have thinned it so much...but i guess I just have to be more brave to do it... :p Thanks Again Mike
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18-Sep-2003
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Charles Bevan
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I think jay was stressing the spelling of JUNIPER. You keep adding an F where the P should be.
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18-Sep-2003
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Mike,
I agree there is only so much you can prune a tree without sending it over the edge. I am NOT a good person to tell you how much is too much. My thought was to show you a possibility for the tree. Not saying my way is the right way but... When I get a new tree that I know will need lots of work I first study it for a while. Then I put it down and study it another day. Finally at a third sitting I see if I still agree with my first opinion. What I look for is (not in any order) what final height I am going to take the tree to. What style the tree will be developed in. What is the best choice for a front. What planting angle the tree will be at. What are my choices for the first second and third branches. Yes, if the tree is very thick, you may need to remove a branch or three to see inside, but try not to be to liberal in the initial removal. As you said, the tree can only take so much stress at one time. If you are going to do major work on the top, do not do any root work till the following year. Of course, differing species require differing handling techniques. Good Luck Jay
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