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21-Jun-2006
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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Twin trunk Chinese Elm
This is my latest project. Thinking this chinese elm will make a nice sokan
style. It is about 18" tall right now and healthy. I am torn between putting it in the ground for a couple of years or repotting it into a larger training pot. One of the other boards has suggested a major chop of the main trunk right about the first set of branches making a new apex. Being new to the hobby, I'm a little scared about major surgury.... Can this tree be repotted at this time (not disturbing the roots too much...) or is it better to let it stay in it's nursury pot for the rest of the summer?
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22-Jun-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
Join Date: May-2006
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Hi Red
It needs to be chopped, and I would do so just above the third branch ( the one to the right at 45deg up). This would provide some taper and remove the ugly ( to me ) thick branch at the top. Put it either in the ground or a large training pot for a year or so. As you are now in summer, do not disturb the roots too much ( just tease the ends if root bound). Ken |
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22-Jun-2006
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Gothenburg (west coast)
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don't mind the tree, but the triplane, is it flyable?
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23-Jun-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
Join Date: May-2006
Location: Sydney
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The Fokker
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Check it out at http://www.warbirdsoverwanaka.com/ or http://www.airteamimages.com/14990.html All Fokker DR1's currently flying are replicas, and several years ago there were 5 of them all flying together at "Marlborough Classic Fighters" Easter 2005 in NewZealand. The first time since the end of WW1 has there been 5 in the air at the same time. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?...QRFP&photo_nr=2 Amazing!! ps Manfred Von Richtoffen actually flew several different ones, and only one was painted all red. the others had some camoflage sections like this one. Enjoy Ken Last edited by kcpoole : 23-Jun-2006 at 04:04 AM. |
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23-Jun-2006
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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Thanks for the links. My other (one of too many....) is WWI aircraft. The picture in my avitar is of a small scale model of the red baron's triplane. It is in 1/72 scale and about 5" big.... I specialize in the aircraft of both the Red Baron and another WWI Ace, Ernst Udet. They flew very colorful planes.
The "Flying Circus" term came from the WWI german Jastas (squadrons) who had some very garishly painted aircraft. KC, sounds like you may be a knowlegeable aviation fan also?.....
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23-Jun-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
 
Join Date: Aug-2004
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Hi Red,
I think you need to follow the advice you recieved elsewhere. Chopping the main trunk will help you get some decent taper and then plant it in the ground for a bit. Instead of an outright chop, you may consider air layering it off, then see what you can do with what's left. As to aircraft, i prefer 1/144 scale modern fighter jets myself. Back to the bonsai, Al
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23-Jun-2006
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BonsaiTalk Master B.S.er
 
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I would not chop just yet, that's only going to slow the growth down. You want to try to get some taper to the trunk, so it needs to be grown out more, in the ground or a grow tub/box. Feed it, and let it grow until you you achieve the taper that is going to give it a more mature tree look, then make your chop in the right season.
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23-Jun-2006
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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I was a little scared of chopping during high summer....we are going to have 100 degree F. weekend! I am definately going to use this tree as my first experiment with a major chop and growout development. I am going to repot it into a large training pot for the rest of this season and look at a major restyle in the early spring.
When it's repotted in the spring with a chop is it advisable to do some major root trimming at the same time or should only one major surgury be done at a time?
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23-Jun-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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I would plant the tree ground or a large training box until the trunk is about an inch and a half thick or two, then I would chop. There's not much point chopping now because the new leader will thicken quickly and you won't be left with much taper. Let the tree use all that growth it has up top to help it thicken up.
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23-Jun-2006
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Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Carlsbad, California..coastal desert
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It depends upon what size bonsai you want to end up with, but the idea of letting it grow until the trunk is closer to one and a half inches thick, then chopping, is a good one. If you think about the taper, you will see that you need some good diameter at the base to be able to achieve a reasonable taper on an elm. Elms grow quickly, and if a good base is already there, you will be able to get a good shape. Otherwise the whole point of chopping is lost.
Two years in the ground or a good growing box would be wonderful! And you will be surprised at how quickly those two years will go by. Meantime, you can take some cuttings from your fall trimming and pot them up for later. Wire some of them to have good movement at their bases, too. Joanie
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