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24-Jun-2007
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Trees I Never Should Have Collected
The time has come to 'fess up. My collected trees were all done before I knew much of anything about bonsai. Here's a Scots pine I collected from a condemned Xmas tree farm. I brought it home in 1998 and put it in a growing bed with 4 brothers. It's the only one still alive. When I potted it up in April 2005, I found that all its roots came out one side. Actually, I should say that half of them folded under the base and came out the opposite side. By that time I had learned a couple things about root work, so I removed the bad ones, cut back the good ones, and cut windows in the bark on the side without roots, added hormone powder and potted it up.
This tree is about 42 inches tall and my heaviest. I was on the verge of just making it into a garden tree, but I'm not so sure. Does anyone else have trees they maybe wish they hadn't collected or wish they'd known then what they know now? |
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24-Jun-2007
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24-Jun-2007
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See the problem of buying or collecting crap and then getting emotionally invested in it? LOL thanks Al!
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24-Jun-2007
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How about we hold a bonsaiTALK Community Restoration Project?
We'll return all those unwanted mallsai to the wild. I'm thinking ground zero could be somewhere in the deserted hills surrounding San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station, aka, "Dolly Parton" 
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24-Jun-2007
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Matt has a great idea. I am with Al on this one, how much time is it worth, without any real nebari? Maybe ebay. John
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24-Jun-2007
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Student of Life
Join Date: Mar-2006
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Country: USA
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Ummm, good training stock.....
LOL I have 2 of them myself, but these have good nebari... Have thought about letting Behr bend the crap out of them to see what can be done! Irene
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24-Jun-2007
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GREEN HORN
Join Date: Jan-2005
Location: Danielsville GA (Near Athens)
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I'm sure too......, sure that it should be ground layered and then trained. This tree is crying to be a grand pine with only one branch down low, a bunch of jins, and a high ever so slightly rounded apex.
But then there's nothing say that you can't do both. You could train it in the garden somewhere, after all, you've already collected it once, and the growth would probably be stronger in the ground.
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24-Jun-2007
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Personally I think the caliper of the trunk justifies taking the time and effort to try and develop some new roots. Try the layering idea again but this time pack the base with pure sphagnum moss and then anchor the moss down by putting a little soil over the top of it. I think there is a good chance the tree might root in the sphagnum. This may take a couple of years, but its not like your looking at retirement next year. A ten year old trunk; I would not toss it out without a second thought.
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I fully agree with Mr. Vance on this...Much time has been spent on more than one forum recently discussing the 'value' of material; collected, landscape nursery, or grown with bonsai in mind...IF one only has the ability or desire to conform to 'by the numbers' or 'cookie cutter' trees, then this is worthless material...However, if one is not constrained and limited by the so called 'rules', and instead has the ability to use them along with insight and inspiration, there may truly not be a 'bad' piece of material if it has age or character to work with... Mr. Robert Steven recently posted at IBC these words... Quote:
Standard 'by the book' tree?...Probably not with the rootage described, but likely to make a very impressive tree by using what the tree has, to best show its' own personal character... Regards Behr 
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