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26-Jan-2008
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Z... Not considered bonsai? I have to confess I have never heard that sentiment before. I'm stumped by it in fact. So you'll have to humor me and elaborate on the origins of that thought. I know that some of the most popular trees in both Elandan and the Rim are it's azaleas. I couldn't imagine not considering it a bonsai. Daniel has some fabulous jade bonsais... if we want to talk about trees not quite being bonsai... at least my azalea has wood.     lol (Note to anyone who owns jades.** I think jades can be quite spectacular... my comment is in no way to be considered a negative poke at them, rather as an illustrative bit of humor.**)Your friend, Victrinia |
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26-Jan-2008
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Regarding Zube's comments, there has been the notion that the repeated S style (Meika) are less bonsai-like than 'potted flowering plants'. In Japanese Satsuki exhibitions, according to Alexander Kennedy in Satsuki, such Meika are judged solely on their flowering performance and are distinct from Satsuki 'bonsai' displayed at the same shows. Satsuki can of course be trained into other more 'bonsai-like' styles like informal upright, cascade, raft, root over rock, exposed root, etc.
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26-Jan-2008
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nice Tree, Vic!
When I read your post about the white crackle pot a flag kinda went up. After mucking through pages of posts, Zube kinda touched on the pot issue. My 2p would be to hold that thought until you find out the color of the flowers. Again, fantastic tree. -Wm |
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26-Jan-2008
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Ms. Vic, I'm certainly not an authority, but it's my understanding that satsuki are displayed as John described. I believe they have been for centuries. They are exhibited solely for the floral display, and the shows are exclusively satsuki. The exhibitors do not consider this bonsai, but something wholly separate and distinct. I can't really elaborate on the history, but I assume that it has only been more recently that the similarities have caused many folks to include this all under the artform of bonsai. The only place I could find Kennedy's book for sale was at http://www.bunabayashi.com/books.htm. It's no longer in print, and apparently it's getting harder to find. It's well worth having.
Take care, zube
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26-Jan-2008
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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Vic, here's a page I stumbled across.
https://www.bonsai-nbf.org/site/exh-satsuki_azalea.html See how the flowers really pop against the plain unglazed pots. I particularly like the 'Korin' (the fifth one down) Later, zube
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26-Jan-2008
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Vic, you said, "I was laying on the stairs looking up at the tree from it's underside, and I was equally thrilled to see the view of that branch." Funny, my first thought when I saw the third picture was that I would have to disply the tree on a monkey stand and put my garden recliner right next to it so I could indulge my desire to stare up at it.
Then you said, "I have some fabulous ramificiation shots of other trees. I'll dig them up and share them with you. You'll enjoy it." You bet I want to see them! I look forward to growing this skill. I imagine a well ramified tree must make the stylist feel sooo good.
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27-Jan-2008
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not Bonsai
In Classic Bonsai of Japan
Nippon Bonsai Association. Plates 25- 36- 81 are all azalea's I do not have to hand any of the Kokofu Albums I will at the end of the month as I am librarian of our club I will certainly be going though them again, for I have seen Azalea's in them. As for Satsuki being grown to show off there flowers. There are many clubs that do this. Kanuma have annual shows where both are shown. As I said he is passionate about his Satsuki's. We get a lot of information from him we are waiting for his book to be published. It deals with growing them in warmer areas. In Perth Western Australia we are having a run where the temprature has not dropped below 33% Celcius for 20 days. Where Arthur lives in the hills to the east of us the temps are generally higher. Hope this helps in some way Pup
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27-Jan-2008
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It's stable but static, right? Bonhe |
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20-Apr-2008
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Bonsai mai-farli-bene
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Well the tree has decided to have a very minimal flowering season this year... so I went ahead with doing a partial repot at this point. I wanted to find the base... I don't know that I have ever seen such babyfine rootage on a tree.... and wow did I find the base... about three inches under the moss and soil.
I changed the planting angle... decided that removing the left branch was a must... because you couldn't see the trunk (bonhe will be please I think... ). I significantly shortened the right first branch to put the tree back in balance afterwards.A friend snagged this shot of it for me. I've got a new camera, and couldn't get a shot I love of it to save me life. lol DSLR is a whole new world. Good thing I am stubborn.Anyway I photoshopped the tree to look more like it's current state and thought you all would enjoy a sneek peek at how the tree is coming. Oh yah... and I love the pot... others may not care for it... but I adore it. Can't go wrong with cream on a flowering tree... and it's as ornate and feminine as this tree is. Kindest regards, Victrinia |
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