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23-Mar-2008
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Nov-2001
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Pyracantha
This is my pyracantha angustifolia ‘monon,’ or Yukon Belle. I got this tree at a nursery last June, but waited until this year to pot it up. I am showing it here before the flowers and berries come, because I have some concerns about its style. It’s a triple trunk. I have tried to differentiate between the three parts of the tree, but am not completely convinced I’ve succeeded. The base of the tree is also somewhat of a problem. It is about 1.25 to 1.5” in diameter…not quite large enough for me to be confident in. However, the nebari is very good, I think. The first picture is the tree as is, and the second is of the root spread.
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23-Mar-2008
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Bonsai Barry
 
Join Date: Dec-2004
Location: Santa Maria, CA
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Although I'm a big fan of most of your trees in the gallery, this one doesn't work for me. With the three long trunks it looks more like a potted bush than a potted tree. It's hard to offer suggestions without seeing all sides of the plant.
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23-Mar-2008
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Mar-2008
Location: Edinburgh
Country: Scotland
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I like it. I think it looks a bit like a bush, but it definitely looks like a bonsai tree-very presteigeous looking.
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23-Mar-2008
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Jan-2008
Location: Sydney
Country: AUstralia
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yeah very bushy
but its a nice tree i just cant say the same about the pot though! |
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23-Mar-2008
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Nov-2001
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Well, this is interesting, because these opinions mirror my mixed feelings. Most of the time I like this tree, but there are times...
Thanks for your input. |
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24-Mar-2008
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bonsaiTALK Master
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It would be helpful to see some other angles. The trunk that goes to the left is kind of straight and uninteresting. From what I can see it looks like all the trunks go out at a wide angle from each other, so even if you cut off one trunk, the two remaining wouldn't look very good. Having said that, the tree isn't all that bad.
With what little can be seen my suggestion is to leave all three trunks for now, let it grow out some more and keep evaluating. Pyracanthas are one of the toughest things growing, so it you decide to drastically prune it will come back with a vengeance. I love a clump and multiple trunk styled bonsai, but they are almost as difficult to do well and a good bunjin  .Carmen |
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24-Mar-2008
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Nov-2001
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Thanks for your post, CScott. It may take a couple of days, but I will post pictures of the sides and back.
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24-Mar-2008
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bonsaiTALK Master
Join Date: Jul-2006
Location: massachusetts
Country: United states
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I would agree with Bonsai Barry. This is a bush, at this time, not a bonsai. This tree needs a major restyling. Also, if kept as a triple trunk, it will need a different front. This front almost hides one trunk, like its a back branch or something. A differeent angle would allow the viewer to see all three trunks. Also, the trunks are too far apart, so wiring is a must. You could always cut a trunk or two off and work with a single or double trunk. It would take some time to develope the ramification on the single trunk though. The pot itself is a very nice pot, however, it is probably better suited for a cascade style. |
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24-Mar-2008
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bonsaiTALK Master
Join Date: Dec-2004
Location: Southern Caleefornia
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Fred,
Can you talk about how you get a photo with a perfectly white background? Can you give us some hints or show your photog setup, that is really clean no distractions just tree and pot. Me like it.
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25-Mar-2008
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Nov-2001
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Rock Chester...about the photography setup. I don't have anything special. I put the tree in front of 2 sheets of foam core, each about 30x40". The sheets are arranged so that one is under the tree, and one is behind. All of this, of course, is on a table of standard height. I also have a couple of 4x8' sheets of foam core just lying around in case I want to mask out more space for larger trees.
You need a fairly good camera to do what I am doing now. I use a Nikon D70s for all digital shots. I won't get into my film stuff now, because I've talked about that elsewhere. Currently, I use 2 foto floods, one on each side of the tree, and one reflector umbrella, slightly to one side. The key thing is to take a couple of practice shots with the lights turned on to see what the shot looks like. I set the camera on manual--that is, I choose the f-stop and the exposure, leaving the focus on automatic. Currently, I am shooting at f29 for 2 seconds. With an exposure time like that, a tripod has to be used. I use an infrared "beeper" to trip the camera. Then... a couple of other things have to be considered. Whatever camera you are using, before shooting, set the resolution at the highest possible figure. If your camera has the RAW format (not tiff and certainly not jpeg), go for that. The second thing is, I use Nikon Capture Editor to do most editing. It is really good for editing RAW format shots. Usually, no matter what the image looks like in preview, I have to add light. I also usually increase the exposure time with the software, but not always. At this point, the background is almost always completely white. I crop the picture and save it as a tiff. I then do finishing touches in Photoshop. Lots of times, it's not necessary. It is possible to do this kind of thing with point-and-shoot cameras, but it is more difficult, and requires pretty thorough knowledge of Photoshop. Hint: I do not do masking. You can get a white background by using "Selective Color," and "Replace Color." It is messier, but it can be done. I did it for a long time, before figuring out this way outlined above. Now, I just have to find some time tomorrow or the day after to make the shots requested. |
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