Pot size v. daiza size

mike_p

On the Thursday TOD discussion I posted these thoughts about pot size versus daiza size.
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Re. placement, there's merit to both sides of the question.
I'd like to throw another factor into the mix. It seem to me that most diaza, or stands if you will, are too small for the pot that is displayed upon them. That's certainly the case here. The pot appears perched instead of placed.
I believe that we need to change the thinking about stands. What they are is a table to display works of art, whether bonsai, sculpture, decorative pottery, flowers, ikebana, etc.
The next time you go to an exhibit, study the diaza. See how many have the rim of the pot hanging over the edge of the diaza. The pot should be well contained within the perimeter of the diaza.
BTW, how about dropping the word "stand", as it creates the wrong image. "Display table" it would seem to me, to be a better description of the function of the display area.
Just my 2cents worth.
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I decided to photograph one daiza ( stand or display table as you wish), and also shoot 3 different size pots on the diaza in hopes of illustrating my point.
The daiza dimensions are: perimeter, 23 3/8"x16", and inset, 20 3/8"x12 3/8
When you're using a daiza with an inset panel. the outermost dimensions of the pot should be within the boundries of the inset.
There are 3 pix to follow. Pot 1 measures 13 3/8"x9 5/8, pot 2 measures 16x12 1/8, and pot 3 measures 18 1/4"x 13 1/4".
I rank them in this order, yes, maybe, and no.

Mike

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Ian_Homer

Hi Mike,

I agree completely with your observations.

1 would be ideal, 2 is just acceptable, while 3 is a no-no !

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jjeter

Good post. The enjoyment of bonsai is not only in growing the tree and styling, but the display and viewing as well. I have seen many trees that are great, but only look very good because of the display arrangement. A good display can also enhance a tree also.


Jeff

bonsaial1

With regard to table to pot asthetics, there is no gray area. It's either right or it's wrong. When a person gets a prize tree potted with the correct pot, and the two seem perfect, it's time to commission a table for the final treatment.

Perfect hair and perfect shoes coupled to a off the rack suit is tacky.

I find in America not enough attention is payed to the accoutrements of bonsai. From soil to tools, scrolls to tables we are sorely lacking. When I had an internet site and made more tables per year, I had a business called "Stand of Trees". Catchy huh! My tag line read: " Don't put your tree on a pedestal, put it on a stand!"

To a person that makes a table or two per year, I look at tables. I look for inspiration to make for myself. I have not seen many inspiring tables lately....that reminds me I have to build a table for sensai by June 5th. I better get cracking!

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BeeJay_323

I have a question about display stands!

I see them in almost every picture of bonsai in refrence/art books!

My big delema is how can you water your trees and not ruin the finish
on these beautiflly finished and detailed stands?
The only thing I can think of is that you can't and don't!
But even if you let them drain after they are watered elsewhere,
then hand dry the pot bottom....there is still the humidity
that will be trapped under the pot as it breathes!
And I never see anything under the pots, to protect the stand?
So whats up with that?


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jloeschner

What's up is the fact that these stands are for displaying the bonsai...not for growing them or daily maintenance. The trees are not left on the stands for extended periods of time. Simply take care of the stand and use it for what it was intended, and it will last a long time.

Regards,
John

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Will_Heath

You don't!

My stands are used for showing the bonsai only. 99% of the year the stands are put up waiting for the next time I show a bonsai.


Will