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Old 26-Nov-2002   #11
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Oh Clay I forgot to mention that I saved your drawing in my documents for future use.
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Old 26-Nov-2002   #12
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Clay,
I know what you mean, its just that straight part of the trunk that kinda draws my eye to it when I look at it. I guess when I style and wire it and place some branches it will take the eye to different part of the tree. Right now my eye goes to that straight part of the trunk.
This tree caught my eye from clear across the nursery though and I had to have it. It looked like it was styled somewhat at that distance. Got it home and you know, stared at it to much I guess.
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I do not believe that it is a graft but if it is it was a darn good one. I went out tonight and squirrels kinda help me uncover little more of the trunk. I explored a little deeper and it does seem that it was planted a bit deeper then needed to be and the first large root is a couple inches further down. I estimate this tree to be around 20-30 years old. This species usually grows horizontally and used in rock gardens as a type of ground cover. I couldn't believe this but I did a search and found that to be fact.
Tofino: Thanks for having fun with photoshop I have got to give this virtual thing a go. My wife went out and got me paintshop pro
last year and been to busy to mess around with it, maybe this winter in between pot making.
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Old 26-Nov-2002   #13
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I am gonna try this out, first I tilted it about 60 to 75 degrees, mascured some of the branches, then I turned it 15 degrees counter clockwise (if facing the tree), just a suggestion, takes away from the straightness of the trunk, and I feel is do-able. However without seeing the actuall tree, I cannot say for sure.
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Old 28-Nov-2002   #14
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Thanks KZ,
That too is another Idea. Thats what is nice about this forum all the different eyes. You know what they say 2 eyes are better then one
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Old 28-Nov-2002   #15
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For starters I'd just prune back the stragley branches and then take a look see. I wouldn't rush it.
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Old 28-Nov-2002   #16
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Hello Jhill, I have allowed me to form a Virtual of your jaw.
Picture 1: I have used these branches for the Virtual.
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Old 28-Nov-2002   #17
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Picture 2: I see your pine arranged so.
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Maybe you could tell me. I have some Jack Pine seeds, could you people tell me a good way to go about germinating them? And also the zone(s) it's most comfortable in?
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Great virtual Karl. I see the same kind of design with maybe a few more lower branches.

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WOW!! Gary and Karl really nice virts of this tree!! You guys must of put some time in on it. I really appreciate it. Now if I can just get you guys to come over and give me a hand I will copy and save for spring.
Gary and Karl you guys are great!!Thanks.

Boniface, I really don't know about the seeds but I would put them in the ground now and mark the area and let mother nature take over. Go to Google or some other search engine and do a search and maybe you can get more info there. here is something I found: http://www.google.com/search?q=pinus+banksiana


Reproduces by seed.
Minimum seed bearing age in open stands is 5-10 years. Some seed is produced every year and serotinous cones accumulate in the crown. A mature stand may have as many as 2 million seeds per acre stored in unopened cones. Because of abundant seed production, few mature trees are necessary to regenerate a stand.
Cones, sealed shut by a resinous bond, require high temperatures to open. This heat is usually provided by fire, but hot, dry weather (air temperatures of at least 80 degrees F.) opens some cones.
The winged seeds are the smallest of the native pines and are dispersed by gravity and wind. The effective dispersal range is about 110'-130' or two tree heights.
Seeds usually germinate rapidly after release when the 10-day mean maximum air temperature is 65 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. Seeds occasionally exhibit partial dormancy which is probably broken naturally by heat from fire. Seeds remain viable in closed cones for years, but viability decreases over time. Up to 50% of 20-year-old seeds may be viable.
Exposed mineral soil or thin residual humus of about 1/4" or less provide the best seedbeds; deeper humus has an adverse effect on establishment; humus deeper than 1 1/2" is a low-quality seedbed. Successful germination and establishment usually occurs only after fire removes humus.
Germination and initial survival sometimes improve with partial shade, but the positive effect of shade eventually becomes negative because seedlings soon require higher light levels. Seedling survival may be low if drought conditions follow germination.
During its first 20 years, one of the fastest growing conifers in its range.
Staminate and ovulate cone primordia are initiated in late summer and then go dormant until spring. Pollen shedding usually late spring or early summer but highly dependent on the weather. Fertilization 13 months after pollination. Cones mature in late summer or early fall, 2 years after initiation.
Maximum growth occurrs under 43% light and higher.
The resin of serotinous cones melts when heated, usually at temperatures in excess of 140 degrees Fahrenheit Seed viability is not markedly affected by heating, unless the cone ignites, which kills the seed. Seeds unprotected by cones remain viable when exposed to high temperatures until the wings ash and the seed coats crack. Crown torching does not ignite cones because the high temperatures are unlikely to last more than 3 minutes.
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