A picture of my wisteria before and after 16 years of training

Smashy

cheers for that Rock.


Strikes me your feral wisterias are far more vigorous that our grafted stock. I assume that they must pro-create from seed yet they still flower vigorously which makes them quite different from the nursery stock planted here.

I have been told that nurseries in this country are ceasing to supply grafted stock so maybe a similar cultivar is being introduced here. From what you say about the damage that could provide me with some nice renovation work in a few years!
Regs Dave

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rockm

I assume that they must pro-create from seed yet they still flower vigorously which makes them quite different from the nursery stock planted here.Z"

They do set seed, but they also spread in other ways. One particular patch near me started in a golf course's refuse yard. Some groundskeeper, probably back in the 70's, maybe 80's must've chopped up a landscape plant and dumped it there. The pieces probably rooted (wisteria grand layers quite easily) and spread over about 20 acres. Once ditch has a 4 inch diameter wisteria vine growing up into surround trees every foot or so for about 100 yards...

We are also fortunate in America to have two NATIVE wisteria species. They live in th emountains further to the west of here--Kentucky and Tennessee, I think. They have smaller neater blooms than the messy agressive Wisteria floribunda.
By the way, that apparently white floweirng monster stump plant you have could be Japanese wisteria, not Chinese. Rarer and prettier than the Chinese species.

Smashy

"By the way, that apparently white floweirng monster stump plant you have could be Japanese wisteria, not Chinese. Rarer and prettier than the Chinese species."

All of the wisteria planted in this country were created from graft. When I potted it into that tub it produced one pink raceme (pic). I assume that it has died back to the root stock because of that. The new growth comes from right down on the roots which was a good foot below the ground level. The leaves have 13 leaflets and the white flowers have a very strong lemon/jasmine scent and have a dash of yellow in the centre of the "hood" part of the flower. Do you think that a japanese wisteria may have been used for the root stock - does this sound like any cultivar you know?

If there is any one else reading this thread I would love to see some more wisteria examples young or old especially if you have a similar cultivar.

Regs

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rockm

The easiest way to tell if your plant is a Japanese variety or Chinese variety is the direction the vines tend to grip a host plant. Chinese varieties wrap themselves counterclockwise around the thing they're growing up, while Japanese varities vine clockwise. Think I'm nusts? :
http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/pub...lantic/wist.htm


As for the specific variety, there are more than a few dozen. You might get the book "Wisterias: A comprehensive Guide" by Peter Valder. It is pretty comprehensive.

Smashy

Cheers for the link

Yes I had read that but I'm not sure from which direction you look. Looking along in the direction of growth it twines clockwise - looking from the tip obviously the reverse. I think I'm missing something here.

Joanie

Since the growth would originate from the stem, it seems to make sense that you would look at it this way... the stem being the beginning, and looking outward and away from the stem.

Is that right?
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rockm

"the stem being the beginning, and looking outward and away from the stem."
Unless you're an Ozzie, then it's the opposite

You look at the twist from the trunk out towards the tip of the shoot.

Joanie

That's what I meant. In the direction of growth, away from the trunk.



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Smashy

Well in that case it is japanese. It certainly has very strongly scented attractive flowers and lots of them - every single spur bar one small branch has 2 or 3 racemes from it. Considering I'd given it up as ever being a success I'm very pleased I screwed up the transplant! This, like my other tree, has just flowered for the first time since the shock of the transplant.