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2-Jul-2005
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Penjing questions II,garden sabina
Hello,
I have bought this tree from a landscape nursery and given this tree its first ruff styling.I was thinking it would be a good choice for Penjings.I assume this could be another example of a "Shanghi Penjing" style?,the juniper actually has a bit of twist to the trunk and not really a C curve.I think it may work still? I have left it in a mushroom shape for time being and wonder if it is ok to go ahead and remove say..close to half of the green up top,or what would you do? I have removed branches/foliage and an extra couple of trunks already so maybe safer to let it rest until next year but all that aside do you think a styling is availble for this tree? Thanks.
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3-Jul-2005
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Hello Red, There is no way to offer an opinion or advice on this tree because the images are too dark. I would be happy to see the tree re-submitted in a lighter depiction. Kind regards Ash
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3-Jul-2005
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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Hello,
Here is anothr try.
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3-Jul-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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Hi Red, The middle branch at the top after the skinny one would be my new apex wired to the right to de-accentuate the curve in the trunk. The next branch on the left stub jin and the balance would be carved deadwood. I would continue the shari down the trunk to meet the bottom jin. Lightning strike on the trees' left perhaps. Only my first thoughts. Regards Ash
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3-Jul-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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Hi Red,
Nice tree. You know, if anything stumps me, its junipers. I have 3 really nice big ones, can't or am afraidto do anything to them. I have had them for 10 years or more. I trim the roots. Listen to Mr. 9999. His idea is good.  Peace Bob
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4-Jul-2005
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Hi, Ash thanks, I am reading your choice for the apex branch (leader),and the more carving the better.I can't really follow the rest though as I have qouted above.I just can't figure out what your saying I guess. I found a pic of a tree that has the feel of the penjing theme I was thinking about.I don't know how difficult this would be with a juniper,just what I was thinking about when I bought the tree at the time.
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4-Jul-2005
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Red Pine,
your plans are OK. Why you insit on calling the tree a 'penjing' is unclear to me. It seems that you call anything penjing that does not fall into the strict traditional model.
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4-Jul-2005
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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Hi Walter,
Penjing to the best of my understanding is a tree being trained in one of the Chinese themes.The pics I am studying are all from penjing books,websites and forums.This picture of a show tree I am using is from the Man Lung website.The only answer I can give is that to me this trees trunk looks Chinese and I think will lend itself easier to a Chinese form because of the curving motion. Thanks.
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5-Jul-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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Wes ok by the balance i mean all growth to the left be de-barked and refined as deadwood with stub jinned branches. Wire every thing down to fall off to the left for a year if you wish then strip the bark and refine. Pre-wiring foliage for future jinning is good practice as you are following a long term plan. As with chess think long term. Kind Regards Ash
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