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Open For Criticism
This is my first attempt. Wiring I think went okay, but that wasn't the difficult part. Design, and the removing of branches and foliage is the worst.
But I am open to criticism of any kind. Both positive and negative, I would greatly appreciate the negative (don't make me cry though ).Thanks, Justin 1of3
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1of3
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pruned
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3 of 3
wired this took me a good 2 hours. Ridiculous and overcautious, but made no mistakes
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Learning Every Day
Join Date: Apr-2002
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Hey ya
Cute little juniper, a very good tree to learn with. Wiring is all about practice and more practice. I’d suggest getting outside and practice on garden trees. You want nice firm loops of even size and not big loose loops and small tight ones, it all take a lot of trial and error to learn. You don’t want to see gaps all over the tree as it just looks messy. Its not easy to get right, heck, I’m still trying to figure it out after 10 plus years!! You have give your tree a ‘freshly plucked chicken’ look, long thin limbs with pom-poms of foliage on the ends. Pruning is also a difficult thing to master. You only want to remove just enough foliage from a branch to expose the trunk line. It may grow back but its all about learning. Id also like to suggest you get a pen and paper and sketch the main trunk line. It is then easier to work out where you want branches and which ones have to go. It saves the ‘oh my gawd – I needed that branch, what was I thinking’ syndrome. Id also like to say, if you cant see a design in the tree, go for the overall triangle look, its harder to stuff that up. Im really not sure what design you were going for but in the pics below I have tried to show you what I see. I took the ‘before the haircut’ picture and did the following. The blue line is the trunk line, a standard S curve. The orange is the side branches and the yellow, back branches. The second pic is a VERU QUICK virtual using the branches of your tree as best as I could see them. Hope it helps, I’m sure you will get lots of opinions, I wish your little tree all the health. Cheers Juliet Australia |
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Learning Every Day
Join Date: Apr-2002
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Banned 08JUN2005
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Gosh, you have done a nice job of critiquing this tree, Juliet.
Justin, I'm not sure that you have really understood the basic concept of how to wire a tree. Is there a club available to you in your area? I might also recommend John Naka's Book, Bonsai Techniques I for a very good explanation of the basics of wiring as well as basic designs for newly styled trees. Your tree needs to have the trunk wired with the right size wire as well as all the branches. You need a better basic concept of how to wire, both heavy trunks and large branches as well as fine, secondary branches and how to prune to get the effect you want. You are doing just fine at this point! Making the effort to style a tree and then showing it to people with more experience is absolutly the best thing you could have done at this point. If you keep trying, you will, one of these days, have the "AHA! So that's how it's done experience. Good luck, Fred |
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Well, thank you for your advice. I originally intended on doing an informal upright, but as I did the sketching of the branchs (which juliet suggested) I found it quite difficult. The attached image will show why.
It is never too late, as long as I have patience, and do not do the dreadful act of killing it. I was thinking windswept, but I am still working on my eye for design. Attached picture #2 Wiring was very difficult and while I understand some of the ideas of it, I just was too afraid of hurting the tree. I didn't give up my reading and more reading about it, but I just payed tuition for college ... I am sure you catch the drift. I read somewhere that evergreens have to be wired about one year, so I didn't want to make them to tight.Since branch #1 was like that, I could do nothing for the informal upright scheme until it grows more (see picture #2) I kept the #2 branches to keep the tree alive, and in case I discover a use for them.
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The red could be the informal upright design, and the yellow could be a windswept design. It isn't quite ready for either, but I'm not either. It is but a step.
Thanks again
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YOU CAN NOT RUSH TIME
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Sheep, I note you are from the great state (well the state) of New Jersey. Depending where in the state you are, and if you have available time, there are Bonsai Clubs to think about.
I live to the North in NY. I travel to bonsai club meetings once a month ( 2nd Tues night) at Frelinghuysen Arboretum, 53 E. Hanover Avenue, Morris Plains, NJ. Exit 36 of I 287 is about a mile away! This is the Great Swamp Bonsai Society. There are other clubs in NJ if this is not for you. If you are in the far north of NJ, Craig Cowing and myself are forming a study group to meet in the Blooming Grove area of Orange County NY (North of Goshen/Chester- South of Newburgh) Which should be getting started shortly. We would love to have you with us! In any case feel free to send me a PM and ask about the clubs etc! J
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