Olive stump: What to do ?

bonsaial1

Your probably both right. The smarter thing to do would be to remove both branches and keep the main trunk. That is the piece that has the most character anyway.

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Carl_Bergstrom

That's certainly what I'd do - go down to the bare trunk, and regrow the branches that I wanted in the places and shapes that I wanted them. With an olive, that shouldn't be too terribly hard to do. I wouldn't advise one to try it with a hinoki.

Looking at your mother-daughter virtual again, Al, I like it a bit more than I did last night. If the branch just came off a bit lower - across from the bulk of the bulging base of the trunk - it would have a wonderful Chinerse flair to it...

...but it doesn't, so I'd remove it. I don't find jin to be particularly compelling on olive unless integrated with very detailed deadwood carving on the trunk itself. So I'd recommend against creating a jin out of either branch.

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groan

what about this option!?

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bonsaial1

I think what makes this stump a little unusual, is the fact that it is a little taller than one thinks. I think the way the photo was cropped makes the trunk seem long and thin. If the pic was a little fatter, one could extend those branches out and get some form to the tree. I think without shortening the trunk significantly, a bunjin design may be the ticket. I may try this later this evening after work. I'm home reloading more tools in my truck. Hope the boss is not online?

OTC, seems to me that the base may have been chopped recently. I think there were more larger trunks on the left side there. What do you think?

Bonsaial

treenut

re groans pic.thats one hell of a taper!

TreeBay

Yeah. If you look at it sideways it looks like an elephant, or maybe an anteater in operation

Regards,

Matt

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juliet-of-oz

hi ya

Your olive is great you are going to have a lovely tree. I think it is similar in shape to one of mine but yours has more movement. I have posted a pic below of mine, i think from last year some time - i will try to post a more up to date one soon.

Things i have learned. Branches once set are very hard to bend, so get the new shoots that you plan to make branches bent with wire as soon as you can, once they set, thats it. The angle you put into the branches sets very quickly. The branches on my tree now need to be rewired and bent back up because at the current angle, they look stupid (I may chop them all off completely and start again) You will need a sacrifice branches for the branches themselves, dont just let you branch grow freely as they grow out quickly and the nodes get very long. keep the actual branch compact and let one of the side shoots grow as the sacrifice branch. Similar to the top (as in my picture) you may need to let the sacrifice branches grow up to six feet to get the right taper (im still working on it) but get those curves in early or you will be starting again.

I cant think of anything more at the moment, if i do i will post it when i get an up to date pic on the tree.

Oh yeah - Id go with rips virtual for the cut off point for the top and get rid of both those heavy side branches, grow all new ones where you control the angle and movement, trust me - it wont take long!!!

Cheers

jls

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juliet-of-oz

your tree, my branches, my virtual very quickly



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Carl_Bergstrom

Jules - that's one sweet olive you've got! I like it a lot. As for the branch angle, some folks might hate it and it's certainly not neoclassical styling, but it does do something interesting. I wonder if you couldn't make a very interesting chinese-style tree out of it.

Nice virt, too...that's the way I'd try to go if I owned that olive.

-Old Mister

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