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14-Apr-2008
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Propagation Idiot Savant
 
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Ok...now what?
this is a Crepe Myrtle I collected 2 years ago. See thread http://forum.bonsaitalk.com/f14/cre...vice-16978.html
Now I'm at a loss as what to do next. Gotta alot of deadwood to work with my Dremel and router bit but I'm unsure as to what I should keep as a tree. I am looking forward to a hollowed main trunk and a big dead (carved) branch down low. Help me with the top part please. Thanks in advance -Steve
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15-Apr-2008
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Pruning Addict...
Join Date: Apr-2008
Location: denver co
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well having never done carving myself, so this is just opinion....
i'd leave as much of the top in place as possible to help the plant heal. it sounds like it's in your head to do it so do it cautiously. you may also have some die back. so best to leave some extra for now. maybe cut what looks like last year's growth back by half? especially since you don't really have a "vision" for the tree yet. let it grow then do a drastic chop next year maybe... just my 2 cents.... |
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15-Apr-2008
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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Two words chissel hammer. You dont want to make a jin on that diciduous tree though a hollow would look sort of alright in my opinion just chissel all the bad wood out and seel it up and let it heal.
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16-Apr-2008
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Bonsai mai-farli-bene
 
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I have two words also... die grinder. Makita...dewalt... take your pick... but one of those with a 1/4 core box router bit and you are in business.
However that being said... I think your biggest concern is to chase back some growth. I don't know much about this species... can you do anything to promote back budding? You really need some lower branches on it. Is it possible to maybe graft branches where you need them? In anycase, those areas which you know are dead.. you can have fun carving now... You would want to start with a die grinder if you can... and do finishing work with a dremel. If you look in the Elandan gardens gallery... you can get a lot of inspiration ideas from how Daniel Robinson approaches the treatment of deadwood. It would be odd on a deciduous to have too long of a jin.... it would tend to rot off in real life and be more stubbed wearing away eventually into a sabamiki or hollow. I had considered leaving a long jin on a maple... and ultimately changed my mind after talking to Daniel about it. I'll try and see if I can't post some pics for you also.... I'm diggin through them right now...  Just my two cents as well...  Kindest regards, |
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16-Apr-2008
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Bonsai mai-farli-bene
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A beautiful boxwood at Elandan... it hasn't had it's haircut for this year. I'll probably work it over this next weekend... but still... the trunk is gorgeous.
This was done with a die grinder and dremel.... |
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17-Apr-2008
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Propagation Idiot Savant
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Got a Roto-Zip and a 17 dollar router bit and went to town. Roughed it up a bit and looking good. Man can those bad boys dispose of wood QUICK!..
The more I looked at it the more I thought that this style might work best. I will post better pics this Sunday. Question is what kind of pot would I use for a tree this large? I'll prolly make a box for it for another year but I am still going to be thinking of the eventual pot. Thanks for the imput all!
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17-Apr-2008
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I'd say offhand something deep, of the proportions we usually think of when we think of semi-cascade. You'll need the depth to anchor the tree, both physically and visually.
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Treebeard 55 "To do bunjin is easy. However, to do a bunjin masterpiece is difficult." -- Susumu Nakamura, at MBS '07 |
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18-Apr-2008
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Propagation Idiot Savant
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Ya know....you guys are right. There is no long dead wood on deciduous trees.
Good grief. I guess my maple jins gotta go! Back to the drawing board on this one too.
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18-Apr-2008
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bonsaiTALK Master
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I tried a virtual for your tree. With a trunk that long you may have some difficulties with that dramatic of a slant. You are almost to the point of having a horizontal branch, which is visually distracting, and it is a pain to keep a tree tilted that far over without gravity taking it down even farther. I tilted it up about 20 degrees. The right branch needs to be wired down, and the small branch wired to the left.
Just my take on things. Keep studying your tree from all angles. Looks like a fun project. Carmen |
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19-Apr-2008
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bonsaiTALK Master
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Orange County, California
Country: USA
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Hi everybody, Carmen, I like your virtual for this tree. It's not bad! I have another option for you to think about too. Here's how I see it. The tree is great for a bunjin because all the branches are in place already. I would keep some of the jins, at least for a while.
Good luck with it Steez! Si |
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