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29-Jan-2006
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Oaks from Italy
Hi people, I show you today no pines but deciduous trees. It is oaks from Italy this one me begin styling.
Picture 1: before the styling Picture 2: after the styling Front Side Picture 3: top view Picture 4: Future
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Kind greetings from Vienna/Austria Welcome on my home page http://www.bonsaiwerkstatt.at AoB Profil: http://www.artofbonsai.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1397 Karl T. |
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29-Jan-2006
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the next oak.
Picture 5: before the styling Picture 6: after the styling Front Side Picture 7: top view Picture 8: Future
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Kind greetings from Vienna/Austria Welcome on my home page http://www.bonsaiwerkstatt.at AoB Profil: http://www.artofbonsai.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1397 Karl T. Last edited by Karl Thier : 29-Jan-2006 at 07:20 PM. |
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29-Jan-2006
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The last oak.
Picture 9: before the styling Picture 10: after the styling Front Side Picture 11: top view Picture 12: Future
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Kind greetings from Vienna/Austria Welcome on my home page http://www.bonsaiwerkstatt.at AoB Profil: http://www.artofbonsai.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1397 Karl T. |
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29-Jan-2006
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Bellisimo!Great trunks,they all look like pine trees.
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29-Jan-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
 
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All projections look quite attainable...I especially like number two.
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29-Jan-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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Karl these trees are wonderful!
I love the bark and the movement of the trunks. What species of oak are these? Quercus Robur? Quercus frainetto? Whatever they are, they are going to be great bonsai! All the best, Aaron
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29-Jan-2006
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Karl,
I'm usually a big fan of your work....but they all look like pines. Oak spread out and up, contorting their branches. Oak #2 looks most unnatural. You have lots of ramification, why not try moving upward, and outward, instead of triangular. Scott |
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29-Jan-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
 
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Hi Karl
You have great material here, but I must disagree with your stylings plans. They all seem too much in the pine/juniper look. To me they don't look at all like oaks, IMHO. I hope you reconsider. Regards Mike
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29-Jan-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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I like no. 1 the most.
I do agree with these others that your trees don't look like oaks in nature. But, your trees have trunks unlike any a natural oak, so it wouldn't make sense to take the material you have and not train it in what you see is the best interpretation of the material because of the species. I think this might be a case of reverse naturalism. The styling set forth by Karl are probably the best visions for these trees, but just because of the species, the vision is seen as unfitting? To me this is the same as trying to make a myogi Zelkova from a chopped stump. I think you should determine styling based on the individual tree, not on the species. |
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