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Old 14-Mar-2007   #1
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Oak in flower. Full size picture
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Here's a full picture of the tree. It stands about 34 inches above the pot rim.
This coast oak was collected in 1975 by Tosh Saburomaru. I bought it from one of his students about 25 years ago. The pot it was in at that time measures 16 3/4" x 11 3/4". The current pot is 27" x 19 1/2". It has grown quite a bit over the years.

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Huh? Is this better?
I am far too ignorant of bonsai to make a truly informed opinion, but I was wondering if you thought that the attached virt was an improvement?
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Old 14-Mar-2007   #3
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I am far too ignorant of bonsai to make a truly informed opinion, but I was wondering if you thought that the attached virt was an improvement?


Sorry, the answer is no. Your virtual makes it appear less like an oak, and more like some other species.

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Old 14-Mar-2007   #4
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what an excellent tree you have there mike.
i am field growing a couple of these now and hope they look as nice as yours someday.
i have also seen some of john thompson's collected calif. oak trees pictured in the golden statements booklet and like them also.
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Looks great!

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I am far too ignorant of bonsai to make a truly informed opinion, but I was wondering if you thought that the attached virt was an improvement?


I agree with Mike, following the virtual would be a big step in the wrong direction.


Mike,

That's a magnificent oak, and I don't remember seing it before.

It could use some wiring, though. Currently, the foliage lacks refinement, but wiring could greatly improve that.
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I agree with Mike, following the virtual would be a big step in the wrong direction.


Mike,

That's a magnificent oak, and I don't remember seing it before.

It could use some wiring, though. Currently, the foliage lacks refinement, but wiring could greatly improve that.


Attila, the new foliage is very tender. To prevent damage and foliage loss, wiring shouldn't be attempted until it's well hardened off. I would wait at least 1 month. if not 2.

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Seedling Educate Me, Please...
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Sorry, the answer is no. Your virtual makes it appear less like an oak, and more like some other species.
Mike, please educate me. Help me to understand why what you said was true. No sarcasm or argument. I truly want to know...
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Mike, please educate me. Help me to understand why what you said was true. No sarcasm or argument. I truly want to know...


Brian, I'm thinking that you are accustomed to viewing oaks in your part of the country, which probably are different from California oaks.
We see California oaks as having spreading branches lower down and working up to a broad, rounded crown. Many of them have spread that well exceeds the height.
The link is to a google site on quercus agrifolia:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=...ch+Images&gbv=2

I hope this helps.

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Mike, please educate me. Help me to understand why what you said was true. No sarcasm or argument. I truly want to know...
And beside the more natural oak look you always want to maintain in this bonsai, the branch placement is just as important. In the org. picture the location of the branches create nice empty spaces that make the tree very interesting to look at, the black background shows them very well. In your virtual the empty space on the left and right site of the trunk is monotone and starts on the same height on opposite sides of the trunk, this gives almost the same feeling as two main branches, that starts on the same height, high on the trunk. Open spaces are very important in the believability of your bonsai. Looking more closely at them is a great help when designing your tree, just outline your idea on a piece of white paper, fill it in with black and then look at the empty spaces that have appeared (or not)! I know of a very famous European bonsai master who teaches his students about empty spaces by placing a bright light behind there tree, casting a shadow on a white wall.
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