New Mystery "Wisteria"

jfecme

Yes, Joanie, you are correct. My humble apologies to anyone offended. I must add that the picture, in my view, did not provide enough of the merits of this specimen to understand its full potential.

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Ang3lFir3

No so much offended as irritated. But we are certainly fine now. psst in the future cheeky smilies help people know when you are joking .

what about the pictures do you think makes it hard to appreciate the potential of the specimen? admitedly they could have been better but it was a spir of the moment thing that i asked vic to do.... it was getting dark and raining so a flash had to be used.

andy suggestions or comments you might have regarding the trees development would certianly be worth hearing.

JohnQuinn

Mrs. Vic and I purchased this "Wisteria" (its supposedly a miniature wisteria like species...)

The only other 'wisteria like' genus I have heard of is Millettia, but it is evergreen.
There are many species, M japonica, M taiwanensis, M reticulata, etc.

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The only other 'wisteria like' genus I have heard of is Millettia.[/QUOTE]

Yes John, these are often referred to as a 'dwarf wisteria'. I don't believe they ever flower and have never seen one flower. Many years ago my business partner bought one from Mihalics at 'Wildwood Gardens' here in NE Ohio. They said it wouldn't flower. He put it in the ground to size-up. It grew there many years, I'm thinking maybe 15, and grew VERY slow and never got a flower. Last year when I did his sale to get rid of bonsai 'stuff' due to is health someone dug it from his growing bed and took it home..for $20!
I imagine Frank, Tony and Joann still sell them at Wildwood.

Then again....here they say they are showing one and it's flowering
http://www.glasshouseworks.com/perr-mo.html
but, that foliage they show looks much larger than the plant I've seen.

Regards,
Dale

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I.B.

I think your wisteria is the:

Dwarf Wisteria
Millettia japonica 'Microphylla'

This choice species has two Japanese names: "Ko Fuji" (Dwarf Wisteria) and "Mekura Fuji" (Blind Wisteria). It is called Blind Wisteria because it "never" blossoms. I've been growing this species for over 25 years and have never seed it flower. Boon in CA told me his flowered, and I did not believe him until he sent me photo of it. I now believe him, as well as the bonsai person (who used to drink) who also told me this species blossomed about 25 years ago.

There is a five page article on this species in my International BONSAI magazine in the 2004/No. 1 issue. It has five black and white photos of some of the most famous and largest Dwarf Wisteria in Japan.

Even if this plant did not flower, it is great for it's bright green delicate foliage. One tip, do NOT allow this species to dry out, it only has to happen once before the plant turns crispy.

Good luck with your specimen. It's one of the largest and oldest Dwarf Wisteria I have seen and probably so because it came from the famous Domoto Nursery in Hayward CA. The two Japanese brothers who established this superb nursery were real plantsmen.

Bill

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Bill,
Thanks for the information. Great detail.

Miss Vic, I am not sure that all "the greatest Bonsai" have deadwood. No I am sure that they don't necessarily have deadwood. Anyway, you have a great find and I look forward to seeing how it improves with the great care it will now receive.

Best to you guys,
John

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Victrinia_Ensor

My dear John...

I have no doubt we may define greatness very differently. I won't say there are not trees in the world, who lacking deadwood, still manage to somehow take my breath away.... but those are rare. (The Ohashi Beech at the Rim being a great favorite of mine.) But in truth you are quoting me a bit in the wrong light... I said that deadwood is the magical element in all great bonsai. I will not concede that personal truth for love nor money.

I've seen marvelous trees without deadwood... but never stared at their every nook and cranny for hours in fascination. Maybe because trees without good deadwood have no nooks and crannies. lol

Needless to say, I have tremendous respect for you as an artist and will take your comment in the tone of good natured ribbing it is. You know my foundations well enough to know the source of my deeply ingrained beliefs. Which invariably leads to the parting of agreement between us on certain subjects. All of which is fine with me... you have every right to your personal truths. Were you the one who laid the path before me, and not another, I might have very different convictions. But alas... I have not had the pleasure of learning in your presence. Maybe someday... that would be great fun.

Thank you for the kind remark as well... indeed it will be given every consideration and care.


With respect as ever,

Victrinia

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Barbara...

We will be sure to document the preservation work with this tree.... I will probably wait for things to warm up and dry out more before we do it though... so you'll see it later this year.


Kindest regards,

Victrinia

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Victrinia_Ensor

I will certainly take you at your word, that you meant no offense.... as Ang suggested, the use of emoticons can offset what can be preceived to be a slight. Because your intentions will be more clear. No worries... it is forgotten.

I'll be sure to try and get some better photographs this weekend. I agree... they arn't the best. I was taking them more with the intent of showing off the deadwood vs. the overall structure. I am sure you would see it's potential more clearly when photographed with the intention to appreciate overall structure.


Kindest regards,

Victrinia

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