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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Amstelveen
Country: Netherlands
USDA Zone: 8
AHS Heat Zone: 2-3
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Hmmm...
Face it, it all depends where you live. I live in Holland. I picked this elm up on the local market at a plant seller for EUR 12.50 ($13.50). I picked up an uglier one a week later for EUR10. This one is about 40cm tall and, I am guessing, of Chinese origin. |
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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So, I wonder what the readers on this board would think the value of a tree like this would be:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=2345964105 He has sold several of those for hundreds of dollars, and I see better material in these threads for "$13.50" .. "half price" .. etc. I wish I had a Bonsai Nursury close! Jason |
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YOU CAN NOT RUSH TIME
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Jason, I prefer Jeremy's tree over the one in the auction. I am not a great lover of the 'Chinese' style of elms but the one in the auction is far to outside my limits.
It is always easy to tell someone what to do. Or, to say I do this you should too. That said, contact a local club, go on google and do a search, you will find somewhere to get trees. Sure it may be a trip, I travel 5 1/2 hours to get trees once a year. plan on a trip, its not like you need to go every day... Don't forget, if you get permission, collecting is a great way to obtain trees...... Lastly, no one is forcing anyone to buy on ebay or from the online vendors, in most cases it is much better to see the tree in person and get the full 3-D look. Gas is exspensive, but so is shipping, think about it. Jay
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Banned 08JUN2005
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Jason, I, personally, like the auction tree you are looking at very much. I think it's a lot better than the trees shown earlier in this thread, which represent good value but require alot more time and effort to get them to the point this tree is at. I can easily imagine asking Walter for advice on this tree, but not on the earlier trees.
The thing that would give me pause on this tree is bringing a tree from Florida into your much more rigorous climate. I used to love the many Chinese Elms I saw in California, but I don't see any of them here and our climate is a lot gentler than yours. I think if it were me, I'd be looking for something better adapted to my climate. The idea of visiting local nurseries for long range projects or bonsai nurseries at greater distance but within my climactic zone appeals to me. Fred |
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Amstelveen
Country: Netherlands
USDA Zone: 8
AHS Heat Zone: 2-3
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Don't get me wrong, I don't like my Chinese Elm either! But for $13, who can complain. So far this year I have rooted 25 cuttings from it, which was the primary reason I bought it.
Here's a photo of the $11 tree. It has very ugly branching and silly roots so I'm considering airlayering to preserve the top half, since there's some potential in its shape. I'll then start again in the grow bed with the bottom half... |
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Charles Bevan
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Treebeard,
I realize this thread is long gone but I thought I'd put in my two cents. I agree with what matt is saying, but I would do it lower. Make the bottom tree a sumo.
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"Success demands understanding"-Andy Rutledge Charles Bevan Vero Beach, Fl |
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Tree herder
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Thanks Charles. The air layer didn't take, see air layer gone wrong. When I recut it I will have to make gap wider. I will try to widen the cut at the bottom. So, although my cut line in the picture is quite high up, the actual bottom stump will be a little shorter than this line when the layer eventually gets severed, eventually giving me a short trunk very suitable for sumo.
Regards, TB
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YOU CAN NOT RUSH TIME
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Jerry, lets first agree that my vertual skills are limited(extremely limited). But I think if you were to airlayer or ground layer you could have something.
Jay
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