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5-May-2006
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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Mountain Ash exposed roots...Negari?
Here is a new one I picked up at the Wee Tree Farm in Oregon. It had a tag labled as "flowering Something $10.00". I guess it was tagged before it
had leafed out. I understand that it is a Mountain Ash, Sorbus Aucuparia. It had some interesting looking exposed roots. I repotted it and thought it needed a rock to grow on. I didn't follow the rules for planting a root over rock tree and just slipped a piece of obsidean under the exposed roots. It seems to be doing fine other than it is kind of "droopy". I don't know if this is it's regular habbit or if it is still a little shocky. So far, I have been keeping it in morning/mid day sun. We have had only a couple of days in the 80 degree zone (f.) Any comments?
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6-May-2006
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G'day Mate,
Your Sorbus looks fine to me, not gunna comment on the styling, or give advice regarding that as I think that that is where one's individual approach comes in. The rock looks convincing, but there is a root stem that you have cut that should be trimmed clean. It appears to me that you have not wired the tree into the pot in the conventional way, can't understand that or perhaps you don't know how to do it....? Would not describe it as a Ne-agari, the root-mass is hugging the ground and for a true exposed-root tree style, the roots are much more prominent and become part of the trunk [as it were]. The soil [regarding colour to rock] is unsympathetic, and looks rather odd, unless you can add another chunk or two [smaller] of the same kinda rock, then you should be able to create a greater harmony. I like your tree, your pot, it's colour, and size, as to style, just stick to informal upright, or better still root-over-rock. As to the drooping appearance, that's OK!, too. Best for the moment, Nigel 
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6-May-2006
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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No worries mate! Thanks for the insight. The soil mix that I am using on this tree is a blend that is popular here in the Northwest USA which is very
well draining. A mix of akadama, lava some pumice and organics. The tree is still not ready for any major styling. Being a beginner, I am most interested in just keeping it alive!! I did not wire the rootball under the pot when I repotted this tree because the exposed roots were all above the level of the surface and the tree was unstable. The wire over the pot and around the trunk is temorary until the repotting starts thriving. Thanks for your advice.
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6-May-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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As a matter of fact dude, I'va actually got a Sorbus with exposed roots, but just for the moment I'm having serious domestic problems, all to do with my partners illness, so producing a pic [tho' possible] will have to wait a few days or so.
I've heard of the soil mix that you use, so if it works...... So please keep your eye out for the pic of my tree, and perhaps you'll understand where I'm coming from. Regards, Nigel
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8-May-2006
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I've got 3 rowan trees myself. on doesn't look to dissimilar to yours and is currently planted in a raised flower bed (my mum thinks i put it there to look prety, little does she know i'm just growing it out a bit lol). The other two are kind of clump/forrest things. I'll try and get some pictues of mine up aswell. Mine sit in full sun from about middy onwards, get watered once a day unless the weather demands it and are doing fine in a mix of 50/50 organic/inorganic. I've yet to see how well they back bud but that is the atempted plan for this year.
Al
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8-May-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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Dude, Just had another look at that wiring effort of yours, and instantly thought that a wire encircling a trunk [as you have done] can sure kill off a tree....  As to style you might consider a wind-swept style, or even a slanting one for that matter, I might even be able to get to making a pic of my poor little fella today, as I've gotta a bi-dyke coming for dinner tonight and she's do'n the cook'n....yippee, so can probably find the time. Regards, Nigel
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25-May-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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G'day Red,
Here are two pics of my Sorbus aucuparia, with exposed roots, there are two trees potted together, both yamadori from the North of Holland. The second, shorter tree is slower for some reason, but is alive and well and only time will tell if I'm gonna have success with this planting. The foliage is clean and crisp and my intention is to maintain the present hieght. There is a much more desirable and far superior Japanese variety, with mucho finer foliage, but as yet I have not been able to track one of these down. Regards, Nigel
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25-May-2006
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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Ozzy buddy...
Love those exposed roots (Negari?) Nice tree overall. The bright green color is definately different from the species I have. The leaves are a darker shade of green....however they are all curled up and kind of brownish right now.... About a week ago, I came home to find my Mountain Ash all wilted. The soil had not dried out that I could tell. We had a 90 degree F day and every tree came out fine except the ash. I moved it to a afternoon shade position next to the house. Tree has still not bounced back. I'm keeping it watered and hoping for the best. Thanks for sharing another Ash tree for me to aspire to.
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26-May-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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G'day Red Dude,
Now let's see....All of my trees are growing in 100% akadama. I too have some little experience with trees wilting, the weather is see-sawing in it's own way. Fortunately I have found a way to overcome this wilting, I literally drench the tree in question, with an overhead spray, and just don't give up until the wilting has been repaired, like I nearly lost one of my very small Callicarpas yesterday, it is smothered with flowerbuds and got to it in time, this particular species is grown for its winter display of bright purple berries on bare wood. My balcony faces East, has a micro climate all of its very own due to the surrounding architecture, tho' I get occasional snow [maybe two days in a year] I never get frost, and afternoon sun has left my balcony around 2pm. I shall soon [very soon I hope] be posting pics of my balcony, and it has reached total maximum tree-space, pots placed edge to edge, every millimeter counts, a veritable jungle that has to be attended to by moving about frequently, all of my trees are thriving like crazy, but some, maybe four, are refusing point-blank to set flowering buds, but I am a determined bugger and won't give in, I must be the master of my tree collection, and any of those that show failure in responding to my un-natural whims are disposed of quite quickly. The brownish appearance of the leaves is probably due to your tree being erxposed to too much sun, I would cut them back, leaving the petiole and a short fragment of the leaf[s] in question, and if the tree is healthy new leaves will appear, but sounds to me that your tree needs sun shade placement, afternoon sun can be a killer and when a tree is in such a small pot of soil greater care must be taken. Best I can say for the moment Bud', Success, Nigel
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