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| View Poll Results: What do you think of this restyling? (mult answers permitted) | |||
| You should have left it as an informal upright! |
  
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1 | 1.96% |
| Cascade suits this tree; good decision |
  
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36 | 70.59% |
| Something is wrong with it (give details please) |
  
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2 | 3.92% |
| Nice restyling for a novice |
  
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10 | 19.61% |
| Tree looks balanced and obeys styling rules |
  
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2 | 3.92% |
| That tree must be in such pain. Rubber bondage and all. |
  
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0 | 0% |
| Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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4-Apr-2005
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Bonsai Novice
Join Date: Apr-2005
Location: Melbourne
Country: Australia
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Juniper Squamata from Upright to cascade
Hi All,
This was my first tree. Initially I messed up the styling, thinking that a cascade could come from a low hanging branch, instead of being the trunk that cascades (See fist pic). Later, after I observed a workshop with Hirotoshi Saito and I decided to try a technique he demonstrated on a 1.3 metre tall pine. He took that pine and bent it lower in an s-shape by about 50%, leaving it at around 60m height. Phenonmenal. What he did was wrap rafia around the trunk all the way along it. Then placed wire running up two sides (not wrapped around the trunk, but along it). Then took strips of cut-up bicycle inner tube and wrapped that around the trunk securely and ited it off. Then he took a lever and bent it slowly and carefully, listening for cracks. Anyway, here's my juniper as it is currently, after a year of styling to correct my initial messed up styling, using the technique Hiro has demo'd. What do you think? Later, I'll post on overhead shot to give a better feel for the depth. cheers, spooky *wonders what the "poll" tick box will produce; ticks it to find out*
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5-Apr-2005
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Nice change.
A side view would be helpful, if the tree is ready for that.  I voted "nice for a novice". It's better than that. A real improvement. I did a squamata workshop last fall with Colin Lewis. I'm letting the tree get its spring growth before I put it in the Gallery. |
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5-Apr-2005
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
Join Date: Dec-2004
Location: Ontario!
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Very nice! Now all you gotta do is introduce more movement similar to that of the trunk into the trailing branch! [img]images/btsmilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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5-Apr-2005
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Dances With Trees
Join Date: Jul-2004
Location: Lake County California
Country: USA
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A definite improvement. The apex branch does seem a little strong to me. I would recomend cutting the apex back hard, in the hopes of stimulating a new bud to break to buid a new apex. This would be the work of several years, but I think it would be worth it. I think the current apex is a little overpowering.
- bob
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Thank Audric, I'll have to work on that after a minor break near the top of the cascade heals fully. I have yet to thin out the tail and wire the branchlets into place on it. (So little time). It does need some more dramatic twists doesn't it? Probably need to work on a virtual at sme stage soon. And will certainly post some more angles when I get a chance. (It's dark outside now) cheers, spooky
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That's a GREAT signature line for this group! Use the same technique that Saito used on the thick portions of the branch when you bend it. See my alternative to raffia in the Vet-Rap Article . You can use any of a number of tapes. One fellow I know uses his wife's old panty hose. The object is to support and protect (sounds like a police department slogan) the branch and its bark without sticking to it, |
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Just read your article and clicked through to some other articles on using raffia and now I feel like a fool: I have never wet the raffia before winding it around the trees. Never seen anyone using raffia here in Oz wet it either, never read to do that in a single book that says 'use raffia'! I hope its holding tight under the rubber.
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3-Dec-2005
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I agree that this cascade style fit this bonsai more, but also the extended branch needs more movement and in my opinion should end in line withe the trunk of the tree...do you know what i mean?
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3-Dec-2005
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Join Date: Jan-2005
Location: Danielsville GA (Near Athens)
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Much better,...I like your vision, that said I would change ONE lil thing ,and not much at that,...the apex seems to feel as if it is leaning a bit too much back from the cascading branch/trunk it somehow just doesn't "feel" right. I hate giving advice as I'm just a beginner,...but I really think that in this case if you were pull that apex just a bit to the right more or less over the area between the trunk base and the cascading bit, it would sit alot better with the visual balance of this tree. But hey man ,your tree ,you made it so much better already so if what you have in mind is not congruent with my oppinion ,please do not hessitate in telling me \, or anyone else who doesn't like to "bugger off" and i'm in buggerin' mode. Nice tree though man really.
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3-Dec-2005
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Hi Spooky,
Well don, much better! But if i may give some advice on the future styling. If you look at the poor virtual i made , you will see that in your design when your eyes folow the trunk movement , they are drawn to the top left, away from the rest of the composition. It is better to led the trunk movement leens more to the direction of the cascading branche, so that the eye direction goes first up and then falls down the cascading branche, from foliage layer to the next foliage layer all the way down, like water would do. This will not only make the bonsai look more naturale, it will allso be a more eye pleasing composition. For the rest i am sure you will do nicely, seeing what you have don so fare with this tree! Keep us posted, Best regards, Hans van Meer.  |
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