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Juniper Procumbens Nana for ?? Cascade Style Bonsai

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Old 21-Apr-2006   #11
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Thanks for all your kind help Moe.

Yes I will pot it up and I should be able to keep it alive ok. I have been growing container plants for years and will have no trouble I am sure.

However shaping bonsai is new to me, the horticultural side I have been doing for ages.

I have lots of small Junipers the same as this, but I just cannot see how I can turn them into bonsai.

Here is a picture of some of my other small trees.


I wonder could these be used for Bonsai?
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Um, which photo did you not see?There are three above. All show a trunkless plant with a scant root system (two or three dominant roots in a mass this big is scant ) and long gangly limbs and no discernable features that would make a good bonsai candidate. Long gangly limbs don't necessarily translate into "cascade" as that style is more than a single limb.


MY thread must be missing the photo of the trunk... I just dont know how you can tell somebody to basically toss away this tree by looking at a birds-eye view of the foliage and a worms-eye view of the roots. YOU never saw the trunk or the branch structure...it has to be there...this tree is 3 feet wide!
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Old 21-Apr-2006   #13
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RockM thanks for your explanation which makes sense. I agree the trunk is very short and ill defined. I will do as Moe suggests and maybe practice wiring on it.

I posted a photo of six other Junipers which I have, these are definately single plants.

The big Juniper was a single plant too, I know because I originally planted it.

Would anyone like to comment on what they think of the bonsai potential of my six other plants?

These were bought about two years ago and just left to grow in their pots with plenty of feeding.

My problem seems to be that I find it very hard to get trees which are suitable for bonsai.
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Lee, in order to evaluate these trees, you would have to take pictures from the sides. The top doesn't tell us much.

Take some good strong shears and cut away the plastic pot that is above the soil line. Then clean off the soil and show us the roots that are growing from the trunk, down and out (hopefully) Clean up the little dead stuff inside so that we can see the trunk line. Roots and trunk are what we look at, to see the possibilities of a tree.

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" just dont know how you can tell somebody to basically toss away this tree by looking at a birds-eye view of the foliage and a worms-eye view of the roots. YOU never saw the trunk or the branch structure...it has to be there...this tree is 3 feet wide!"

Width of the foliage spread doesn't make a potential bonsai worthwhile--a substantial trunk does. BIG doesn't necessarily make it good. Those are mistaken assumptions that you have to get by to see potential, or no potential in stock.

It's a sign that you CAN'T see any definable trunk in a relatively big plant that makes it suspect as bonsai material. Excellent or even mediocre bonsai stock HAS A TRUNK that is defined and visible from quite a ways off.

As for branch structure, that's kind of beside the point, or at least it should be. That's all there is to this tree and the branches aren't all that special either.

You may not like my opinion, but opinions were requested. Photos were posted. I responded. If everyone were to take the path of "don't comment on anything you can't see intricate detail, " then this forum would be kinda useless.

By the way, all of the single-trunked trees that were posted seem to look like good starter stock, or good for small individual trees.
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Thanks Joanie,

Firstly I made the photos a bit smaller.

I will tonight do as you suggest, and take some pictures. I will try and expose the roots growing from the trunk as you suggest.

I will just do one to see what the pictures turnout like.

Thanks a lot,

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