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bonsaiTALK Master
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Please see my reply embedded in your message:
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Last edited by FlyBri : 31-Dec-2007 at 12:56 AM. Reason: Clarification of who said what... Thanks Greg! |
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Gday Greg!
Thanks for your help - it is a little on the cautious side compared to some advice I have received thus far, but my lack of experience with the species, I will probably take the safe option. One further question for clarity: Quote:
In the image above, the lowest branch is the most vigorous, and it has needles further back than any of the other 3 branches. This is also the branch which I hope to keep when the time comes to start pruning. As you can see, the growing tip has a downward-ish orientation. Can I (do I need to) work out a method to bring that growing tip into a more upright position, for the future of this branch? Thanks again, and Happy New Year! Fly. PS: I promise - no more insults this growing season, except maybe the ones I come up with at tonight's NYE celebrations... ![]()
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bonsaiTALK Master
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Fly--anchor the lower branch using the tanuki jin and wire out to 1/2 way, avoiding the new needles on the maturing candle; keep the downward orientation that comes off the trunk. Bend the last 1" upward. This should be enough to orient the terminal bud up enough to keep it vigorous. Visualize the Nike "swoosh" for your lower branch.
I learned a valuable tip from Marco Invernizzi about wiring pines--don't wire all the way out to the tip. You'll do unecessary damage to the new needles and it's always possible to orient the terminal bud upward from farther back on the branch. I hope this makes sense to you ![]() |
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I've always read ...and yes, its been my experience... that theres no need to wire the tips of a JBP upward. They'll grow that way on their own. Other pines, notably ones that aren't as vigorous as JBP, need this treatment, but its unnecessary with JBP.
(I wonder how many different sentences I could write that say the same thing. For everyone's sake that reads this, I won't find out.)
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Gday folks.
As mentioned in Karl Thier's Larix Thread, my JBP Tanuki starter has failed to start. I killed it. I'm glad to know that it wasn't exposure to the freshly cured polyester resin - that's one culprit ruled out. I strongly suspect that it was the repot in early/mid summer, and maybe the odd screw through the trunk that caused its demise. That, and maybe my total inexperience with the species in question... ![]() Could somebody out there close this thread, and save me further embarrassment?.. Thanks. Fly.
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There's no embarrassment since you learned something. It was a good learning piece as I kinda feel like if you're going to do a tanuki/phoenix graft, you need some really impressive deadstock.
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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My guess is you striped 80 % of the needles and watered it as always and damped off the root system. That was always the problems I had due to the drastic foliage reduction which in turn shocked the plant as well. The screws through the sapling I never do. Just wrap them into place with grafting tape.
Here is a little humor to get you thru the tragedy. ![]() |
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bonsaiTALK Master
Join Date: Nov-2007
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FliBri I appreciate your post. I have learned quite a bit from it. Some day I want to try a tanuki. I will incorporate what I have learned here. The risk is that I will simply find yet another way to kill the tree.
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