Japanese Grey Bark Elm

Carl_Bergstrom

You might also want to consider leaving appropriate neutral or negative feedback, to keep this guy from continuing to take advantage of other's good faith...

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OMC

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Andrew
Sorry I missed your post about broom style. Zelkova are well known for broom style. The first piece of advice is that it needs to go in the ground or grow box. Second you have to get the trunk as straight as possible.

David

Jay

OMC, the feedback is up to Andrew. He can leave it.....and only he can leave!

The problem is the tree does look like the picture.As for the copy.... I would say this guy should be hired by the Movies... he sure can write FICTION!

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TreeBay

If it is to be an informal upright, it needs to come out of the soil at an angle. Many do not and wind up with these bizarre question-mark shapes

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...which is very appropriate considering it leaves you guessing!

You can correct that lower trunk problem with the planting angle. This was the main "mistake" in the original design. You might also want to accentuate the two main curves in the trunk by wiring, something like was done originally, but bringing the apex back over the center, which is hard to do unless the lower trunk comes out at an angle.

A broom would be fine and you can use a straight trunk, but if that's the plan, then you need several years growth, as Karl noted, to get anything going. To be honest the original wiring technique wasn't really bad - it was just uninspired.

Regards,

Matt

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andrewh

Thanks to everyone who replied! ! !

ALL your advice is very appreciated.



The reason I said this wiring was "horrible" is because
the wiring was VERY tight to the trunk of the tree, and even appears to have dug in to the trunk in a few small places. There is even one medium/large scar that appears to have been caused by the wire being to tight while the tree was trying to grow.
(and I didn't think the use of insulated electrical wire was a very good idea)

Looks like this tree is going into a grow box for a couple of years, and I am going to try and find my way to a club meeting asap. I have a lot to learn.

Thanks Again All!

Andrew

bonsaial1

You will have that problem when you begin to wire this tree too. Zelcova's grow so fast, that this spring you will only be able to leave the wire on about two months. Be sure to insulate the wire as they did,either the original insulation or paper. You might want to get in touch with Minature Plant Kingdom. There in the area, and come to most of the Bay Area shows. They sell zelcova in 4" pots, about the size of your for about 8.00 bucks. They will be at the GSBF bazarr in Feb. at the Lakeside Garden Center in Hayward. I hope to see you there.

BTW, you could buy about 10 more and use them in a cool forest planting. That way you could get away from the wiring all together and just use clip and grow.

Regards, Bonsai-al

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andrewh

Thanks for the info Bonsai-al

I am definetely going to try and make it to the GSBF Hayward event. I hope to see you there as well.





I really, really like this idea the best...thanks!


So many choices, so much to learn...thanks to everyone who posted to this thread. It has really opened my eyes...

Andrew

ripsgreentree

Andrewh here is an adult zelcova, it is not yet finished as it needs to have the bottom 3 inches of the tree removed by airlayering. The problem is that I cut the trunk too tall for the crown. The most common way to create this stile of tree is to pot out into a five gallon or fifteen gallon nursery container and allow the tree to bolt until you have the trunk size that you are looking for and then cut back and recreate the crown. Just another thought here is the picture.

Glenn

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