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Old 11-Jan-2006   #11
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shane, great tree!!!! maybe an oval pot, something like this

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It is a beautiful tree, but the proposed shallow oval pot is not the right pot for this tree, it is to feminine. This tree needs a larger rectangular pot, even one with distinct feet to accentuate it great strength and power. A powerful tree needs a powerful pot, JMHO.
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perhaps something like this then?

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Old 12-Jan-2006   #13
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More rectangular, deeper, darker. You want to do justice to the squat, solid appearance of the trunk and rock.

Perhaps twice the depth of the last oval, and maybe without a lip?
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The right lower branch has not been removed right now for overall tree appearance, the foliage needs time to develop in other parts of the tree before removing.


Also leaving more branching on the tree increases its general energy and work is completed faster.

Once all the other branches are complete the stone should be the focal point and the right lower branch crosses in front of the stone, there is a rear branch behind the stone which will give visual depth.
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QUOTE=hansvanmeer]Nice job Shane, but may i ask what made you deside to remove that right branche, is it for overall tree apperance or is it don to show a better vieuw on the stone? I am just curious!


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Old 12-Jan-2006   #15
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What an excellent "remodeling" job , with exquisite intermediate styling. True talent always shows through. Since doing this for a customer, where you instructed to repot ,when you felt it is the right time, into any pot you felt would best display it? If so,and since you have the actual 3-D tree there, do you have any photos of which pot you will use. I thought this might be more helpful to folks than several posts of virtual repottings .
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The right lower branch has not been removed right now for overall tree appearance, the foliage needs time to develop in other parts of the tree before removing.


Also leaving more branching on the tree increases its general energy and work is completed faster.

Once all the other branches are complete the stone should be the focal point and the right lower branch crosses in front of the stone, there is a rear branch behind the stone which will give visual depth.
Thanks,
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Thanks for your answer, i had to find out, knowing this now i can ask you this question: do you think that this stone is nice enough to be the focale point, i think this tree is so nice and the stone gives it nice depth, mostly covered the stone is a bit misterious! the stone weker point have become + points in the overall aperance. Alldo i must say it is hard to tell from the pics, Bud ones again a very good job!

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The right lower branch has not been removed right now for overall tree appearance, the foliage needs time to develop in other parts of the tree before removing.


Also leaving more branching on the tree increases its general energy and work is completed faster.

Once all the other branches are complete the stone should be the focal point and the right lower branch crosses in front of the stone, there is a rear branch behind the stone which will give visual depth.
Thanks,
Shane[

QUOTE=hansvanmeer]Nice job Shane, but may i ask what made you deside to remove that right branche, is it for overall tree apperance or is it don to show a better vieuw on the stone? I am just curious!


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Old 13-Jan-2006   #17
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Hans,

You bring up several valid points, the stone is likely not nice enough to bring all the attention to it alone. There is a problem of the branch crossing on front though. This does give depth but when viewed in person keeps you eye from moving up the tree. I have looked closely and the stone could be cut to solve this problem.

I think that when the proper container is selected that, the tree stone and container will work in harmony. The containers already posted by others here are okay for the shape now. When the branch is removed and put into a much smaller container the general shape will be more vertical and have less low horizontal mass.

I think a round, octangal, lotus or scallop shaped container may be best. I am away from my home computer or I would post containers.
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Thanks for your answer, i had to find out, knowing this now i can ask you this question: do you think that this stone is nice enough to be the focale point, i think this tree is so nice and the stone gives it nice depth, mostly covered the stone is a bit misterious! the stone weker point have become + points in the overall aperance. Alldo i must say it is hard to tell from the pics, Bud ones again a very good job!

Regards,
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Old 13-Jan-2006   #18
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The pot should be much smaller than is in other virtuals, I can do virtuals but they do not really capture all the aspects of the bonsai. In general the others virtuals posted are good for the present design. I will see what I can do this weekend, I am away from home right now.

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Shane,
What an excellent "remodeling" job , with exquisite intermediate styling. True talent always shows through. Since doing this for a customer, where you instructed to repot ,when you felt it is the right time, into any pot you felt would best display it? If so,and since you have the actual 3-D tree there, do you have any photos of which pot you will use. I thought this might be more helpful to folks than several posts of virtual repottings .
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Hi everyone,
thanks for all your comments, here is a virtual with right lower branch removed and possible container choice.
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