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Old 22-Aug-2007   #1
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I call it...Pinezilla

Well, here is my latest aquisition. I bought it at HomeDepot yesterday(8-21-07). Only thing I have done to it is remove the mass of dead needles that had accumulated down in the lowest branches and in the pot and cut out any dead branches or rotted pieces. Some specs on this tree: resides currently in a 15 gal nursery pot. It is over 3 feet high and, depending on which side you are facing, is about 4 foot wide. Trunk is about 2 1/2" to 2 3/4" thick. The pic where I am standing behind the tree, yes that is me hideous aren't I, I used myself for scale. I am 5'8" and, well let's just say LARGE.
What I want to do? Well, for starters is cut it back some, but how far I am not sure. Open it up? Yes, I want to open it up some to allow light into the center and lower area. But again, not sure. I don't want to remove entire branches yet til I can see what I have to work with. The tree does slant quite a bit. So I am asking any and all advice, tips, info, critique, comments, suggestions, etc on this getting started. I have already talked to wayne on getting it in some sort of container(possibly a laundry basket with mesh lined inside) and soil mix.

ps: I know this pine isn't the biggest out there in any bonsai or pre-bonsai condition. I just gave the name Pinezilla cause it dwarfs antything I have, pines or other trees.

Pics 1 thu 4 depict 4 different sides
Pic of the trunk, sorry. Best I could do
Last pic is of me and Pinezilla
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File Type: jpg P thunbergiana 3.JPG (54.0 KB, 78 views)
File Type: jpg P thunbergiana 4.JPG (53.9 KB, 66 views)
File Type: jpg Pinus thunbergiana trunk.JPG (52.9 KB, 137 views)
File Type: jpg Pinezilla and Me.JPG (54.0 KB, 176 views)
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Old 22-Aug-2007   #2
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Bonus pics!

Found these today while I was removing dead needles. 5 cones!!

First pic is set 1
Second pic is set 2
Third pic is of a lone cone
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Old 22-Aug-2007   #3
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So, what is it? nigra, jbp, something else?
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Oops, my apologies. It is Pinus thunbergiana... a JBP.
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Nice tree... I guess

Its hard to say what it needs done since the branch structure is entirely obscured by the foliage. Once it settles in its new location I would check the roots to see how much its slanting (it may have been planted leaning over).
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Yes, the foliage obscurs the branching. Too much IMO. Quite possibly it could have been planted leaning. When I gather all the materials to put this tree in a better container with a well draining mix I'll take a look at the roots. Just by looking at the soil surface I can guess that the pot it's in now is 70% or more full of roots. I could be wrong though. I'll be taking this JBP to our next meeting this coming saturday. Wayne's already looking forward to it.
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Hiya Crowned and nice find

how much did it cost if you don't mind me asking

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Nice find for that price

I wish we had them here for that
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JBP respond well to pruning- particulalry just prior to or at the start of seasonal growth. As you can see by looking at this tree, you will need to start making the tree more compact- it is too much a shrub looking beast at this time. A nice thing about JBP is that branches can be very effectively shortened by pruning way back- past two or three branch whorls, as long as the branch still has needles on it. Prune back hard, seal with cut paste, and then select buds to keep in the late fall or even spring. repeat until you have a more compact and tightly budded tree.

Roots can be worked after the tree is brought down in scale. When we do this, such as when trees are dug in the spring, is to prune the tree hard, dig the tree and then clean off the field soil, pot them into a rapidly draining mix and then let them sit for a couple of years or so to recover.

In your case, bring the tree down by pruning then begin to work the roots.

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