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18-Jan-2003
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Formal Upright Larch
Looking for input for this rather large larch formal upright. It is 40 in. from the soil line and is shown w/ a proposed implanted top. I think I will try to lower the branches and implant the top this spring . What do you all think
 Regards, Jonathan
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18-Jan-2003
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Hi Jonathan,
The tree looks good to me. Good nebari, good branch placement and good outline. Not so sure about the pot though, although having said that I am not sure what pot would actually suit. I don't think the branches need lowering much (if at all), perhaps just straightening out a couple of the more bent ones. Personally I think that with the trunk you have, straight branches that just fall below the horizontal would look great. There are a few twigs that look to be growing more or less straight upwards, these need attention. The straight parallel lower trunk I can live with because the top half of the tree looks so good. BTW bear in mind that all this comes from someone who doesn't have a formal upright anywhere near as good as this one. I am not sure what you mean by "implant". can you elaborate? Regards, TB
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18-Jan-2003
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2nd opineeen
This tree would look so dramatic with the limbs pulled way down. The fact that it is so tall and the first branch is quite high all would add to the illusion of age and a look of a snow loaded old forest giant!
A straight sided low rectangle in dark brown would be perfect.
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19-Jan-2003
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A very nice larch, indeed. I really like it the way it is.
Just... could you post a bigger picture so we'd see the ramification better and perhaps make some virtuals for the pot. Zeb
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19-Jan-2003
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bonsaiTALK Master
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Zeb,
Posted is a pic of the tree from the back side (which I also like for the front if it were not for having weaker nebari) I tried to show a larger version of the previous pic but alas it was too large . This pic also does not show the proposed implant and sorry it does have the needles and does not show the ramification. I am not entirely certain that the implant is need and have not decided yet,I thought that it might be needed to give the illusion of more taper TB, The method of implanting jin is described in 'bonsai today' magazine issue 34 (1994-6) The article there shows it's application to juniper ,however the practice as applied to larches is outlined in Nick Lentz's "Bonsai From the Wild" on page 26. Bonsainut, I totally agree w/ your choice of pot suggestion as the straight lines of the pot would echo the spirit of the tree. Regards all , Jonathan
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19-Jan-2003
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OK, all, let me expose my ignorance once more for all the world to see! Heres what I would do...........
I think this tree would be improved by pulling the limbs lower and (here's where I show my ignorance!)......shortening them. To me, the tree's trunk is more slender than you'd really like and shortening the branches (I think) would make it look more in proportion as an older tree. Remember, "Take what you like and leave the rest here!". This is strictly, imho! Fred |
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19-Jan-2003
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This is a great tree already. Whatever you try, that is bending branches down or not, will only improve the tree.
Is anyone in favour of removing the jinned top? I think this tree is very elegant and doesn't need the jinned top. But that is just my opinion. David |
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19-Jan-2003
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bonsaiTALK Master
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Guys,
I'm really bad at this virt thing but as I percieve Fredl's option the result would be something like the down and dirty virt that I came up with . I Really like that approach as it does appear to make the tree more aged and also more compact. The only thing needed was to lower all branches 30 degrees.The crude virt was the result and did not even take into account the shortening of the branches much. Is this what you had in mind? If so I do like the possibilities !!It also almost negates the need for the proposed implanted top Regards, Jonathan
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19-Jan-2003
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bonsaiTALK Master
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OOPS !!! Pushed the wrong button
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20-Jan-2003
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YOU CAN NOT RUSH TIME
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Jonathan, of what I know of Larch growth, and the knowledge is very limited, I believe they are difficult to train the lower branches to go 'downward' in apperance. Does anyone have a comment on this growth trait of Larch?
My opinion of the tree is it shows good thought and looks real nice. I too do not feel it requires the jin implant! J
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