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5-May-2007
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Dale... Dan is VERY focused when he's working. He doesn't say anything, other than to direct me in managing what we are working on. And if he does stop to discuss it at length, he stops everything.  So I would say he also shares your opinion in this way.  How Dan manages the machine is also similar to what you describe as well. It's certinally good advice to give! I know what I want for my birthday now... that much is certain. (grin) I have been introduced to most of the established bonsai folks out this way at this point. He took me to a bonsai auction last week. That was interesting.... both the bonsai and the people. But I have not yet met the collecting buddies. Your friend in all things, Victrinia |
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5-May-2007
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Mike... I had no idea Dan was a catalyst to starting you down the path of working bonsai with power tools. (smile) I find that thought pleases me a great deal. When I see your trees I see such a nice blend of ideas and what I'll call "schools of thought". I have seen some of your trees be very heavily altered by carve work, possessing a balance of what I see as a freedom of expression in bonsai (true artistry) and something which most can still recognize within the medium (usually meaning a small bent towards the Japanese aesthetic). I find your work very satisfying on a number of different levels. Always have.... long before I had any vauge sense of how to define it in my own thinking. I will remind Dan of this tree. It'll make him happy to know it is doing so well. I'll have to mail this link to Diane, so she can show it to him. Having fun with Dan is a foregone conclusion. We enjoy each other's company immensely... actually the whole family is a riot.  With respect, Victrinia |
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10-May-2007
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Ms Vic,
Thanks for posting this thread. Dan is a great guy, many people rush to judegement and think he is arrogant, but I find him funny, very knowledgeable and he cooks a mean steak!! Last year I had the privilage of staying at his house and will be back late this June for a night when I pick Walter Pall up there. The Robinson family is great and very fun to be around. I was up there a few months ago to visit Dan and was suprised by the amount of work that he has done to his trees, although some was your work I would imagine. I love Elanden Gardens, that place is awesome and when I was there last June I took over 200 pictures. Now I have a way better camera and should get some more.... Dan is one of the original pioneers of collecting in America. He has been in almost every state of the country collecting so his experience and knowledge is untouched by many! Thanks again for posting and doing your "Public Relations" work for Dan! Jason Last edited by JGamby713 : 10-May-2007 at 12:12 PM. |
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10-May-2007
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Dan Robinson I presume,has been an inspiration to many.I know he was to me in the early years.It seems his light(or presence) faded for a while...or perhaps it was just my inattention or chosen path.I have never met him and probably never will,but consider you very lucky to have this opportunity.Thanks for re opening my eyes to an American pioneer in the bonsai world.
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10-May-2007
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Im a little envious - I hardly know anyone else in this hobby so this forum is primarily the only contact I have with those that know more than me.
I am a member of a club but we meet too infrequently to quench my bonsai thirst. Thanks for sharing the story and the pics... I enjoyed them. |
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10-May-2007
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Vic has found one of the least noticed paths to learning bonsai--finding a mentor and then working for them. I have seen a few folks do this at bonsai nurseries.
One worked for free at one bonsai nursery I go to weeding, trimming and doing work that the owners couldn't get to or were avoiding doing. He wound up using his experience there to help him get a docent position at the National Arb's bonsai collection... He now helps trim Goshin occasionally... |
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10-May-2007
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That's exactly what I did for about 3 1/2 yrs in mid-80's. I found that after 8 yrs of doing bonsai by myself, and with a club, that I was getting NOWHERE!! I think most newbies fail to recognize this scenario however. Most newbies just don't realize that they don't know...how much they don't know!  We worked on the teachers stuff for a few hours and then my stuff for a few hours, but I enjoyed working on his stuff more than mine! He had a few people who paid him to work on their trees. I couldn't afford this and didn't want it that way anyhow. So, he said to come out and we'd work on his...then mine! I try to do that with a couple friends here now, one in particular who devotes some time.. D.
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10-May-2007
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"I think most newbies fail to recognize this scenario however. Most newbies just don't realize that they don't know...how much they don't know! "
I had one person ask me if he could help me repot a big Bald Cypress one year--just for the experience in doing it. Anyone willing to lift heavy stuff and get muddy helping me is more than welcome in the backyard .He was looking to learn by doing, since he had a big expensive BC he had bought in Fla. He had been timid in root pruning it since it was a Notable Specimen.  . As I went to work hacking off a significant portion of the root mass, he couldn't believe it. He actually gasped and asked if I did THAT alot. I said well, yeah, couldn't get the thing back into the pot if I didn't . I assured him the tree would be fine. Had been for years with such treatment. He left a little stunned, but the next year, he hacked his BC roots back alot more than he would have without the shock. The tree came back stonger than it had ever been.... |
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10-May-2007
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Jason, I can't take any credit from what you saw a few months ago. But when you come back this summer.... My hand will be all over the place. Because it already is. He has extended more trust and faith in me than I give to myself. Even when I take off something I wish I hadn't... he is encouraging, or he dismisses my concern. It's always a processes of moving me from working one species or technique to another. He has been generous in every way. I hope I get to meet you this summer. I am in the garden a great deal. I'll be the chick with the shears in her back pocket, who looks like she is in 7th heaven, working on the trees. Warm regards, Victrinia |
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10-May-2007
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I think people forget, or do not know, that Dan started in this art in 1957. I get more than a little blown away by that fact. He is always calling me a baby. Because he was 14 years into it when I was born.  I think they also do not realize that technically speaking the very first tree at the nat arbo is his. The "Jackie Gleason" tree... (or however his name is spelled...lol) It was there before Naka's tree. But because they wanted Naka's tree to be "first" they put Dan's tree in a different place. It is/was at the entrance to some pavillion. It was commissioned to celebrate the birthday of the National Forestry Service as I recall. It's an interesting story. I'll have to ask him to tell it to me again. Your friend as ever, Victrinia |
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