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Drill A Hole In A Tile Technique

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Old 3-Aug-2004   #11
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The only diference is i used five holes so hopfully they will meld together and make one big nebari

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Old 3-Aug-2004   #12
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And another group in a wall tile
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Old 3-Aug-2004   #13
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I had to put them in a grow box because my garden is still being designed

for more info on this technique read bonsai today issue 8 (if your lucky enough to have it)
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Old 3-Aug-2004   #14
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The Seedlings close together remind me of the thread called Voodoo tree where someone tried to create a sumo bonsai by fusing seedlings like that.
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Old 3-Aug-2004   #15
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The multiple hole method works very well. About 8 years ago when Pine Garden Bonsai was still in business, they sold multiple planting of japanese maples in a hand made tile with 9 hole.

The one I purchased was left to grow in it's pot for about 4 years and the 9 seedlings did fuse well together to create a good negbari.

attached is an old (3yrs) photo of the maple

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Old 3-Aug-2004   #16
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Thanks Matt for the pic and advice.

Rob, looking good mate. Give these a few years and you should have a ripper tree. I'm only starting my seedlings this year so I will be a few years behind you in this experiment.
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I don't know about using a CD for this sorta thing. They seem awfully flimsy. Maybe if two or three were to be wired togther or something. But I'd be pretty leary to put that in the ground with a seedling. The metallic components in the cd might interfere with the trees development. Metal in general seems to bother plant roots. Ever throw pennies or other copper coins in with a potted plant? It really messes things up. What kind of metal is used in cds anyway?
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david, thanks for the response, looks like i will wait until next year and try one or two of my black pine seedlings, i'll be sure to let you all know how it works out of course. on the subject of cds, i tend to agree with the masses here, i think it may be too flimsy to sustain any thickening without breaking and damaging the tree itself. the idea got me thinking though, what about plexiglass or something of a similar make? just as easy to drill as the tile would be and probably in the same price range. personally, i am going to use the tiles, time proven, but i like all the inovative thinking thats going on in this thread.

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Ever throw pennies or other copper coins in with a potted plant? It really messes things up. What kind of metal is used in cds anyway?
I'm pretty sure it is aluminium. I am also pretty sure that the layer of aluminium is on the top of the CD, and the laser reads through the thickness of the plastic. If you were to put the CD upside down then the old roots would be against the aluminium, and not the new nebari. Having said all that though I would say that a CD would be too flimsy for the job and the growing tree would just split it open. As vtbonsaichief said, if you were to wire several together you might get away with it.

Just think, now there are now 102 uses for an AOL CD, not 101 ...

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First, my understanding is that whatever metallic material is used in a CD is completely enclosed in plastic, so the metal should not be an issue. I will agree that CDs can crack pretty easily though, so if you were to use them I would be sure to take it out if the base of the trunk gets near the diameter of the hole in the CD.

Another question, I have heard of the method of planting seedlings on a tile without a hole. Doesn't this force the would-be taproot to become a radial root? Is there an advantage to letting the taproot grow straight down through a hole then cutting it?

Edit: I forgot to mention that plexiglass seems like a fine idea compared to tile. It can be drilled with a typical wood drill bit on a corded or cordless drill instead of masonry bit, drill press, and water.

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