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20-Mar-2005
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Chinese elm suggestions
I would aprreciate any pot suggestions/virtuals you may have for this chinese elm.
It is 24 inches high, has a 25 inch wide crown, and a 2.25 inch caliper. Also, any suggestions from the pics below as to what would be a good front.
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Unless you want to make some drastic changes and cut some branches i would just focus on creating a stronger canopy. A picture with a black background might help a little. Great tree, I love chinese elms.
Hope this helps. -Evan
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Yes, I am not looking to make "drastic" changes. Just have not decided on a front, and will be looking for a pot this year, so wanted any input anyone could give. The background is a black cotton sheet. I know velvet would be better, as it would not throw a shadow, but I don't have any at the moment.
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IMO i like #19736.
I think a whitish-grayish shallow oval pot might do the job. Unglazed too. Just my opinion, best of luck! -Evan
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21-Mar-2005
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Ralph,
I think this bonsai would look great by just extending some of the lower branching and keeping the same, initial shape. A quick virtual is attached. I think this elm can give the illusion of an aged decidious tree with little effort. Very natural looking. For the pot, a light-colored, maybe cream, glazed (speckled?) oval, fairly shallow, no lip, would be my preference. John
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Really good suggestions guys. John thanks for the virt! Your virtual balanced the front nicely. I think this is the direction I am wanting to go. I really want to get more pot suggestions. Give me something to look for when I go to Taiwan this summer.
I personally am leaning to a round cream or beige pot. What do you all think? Round or oval? I like greenhorn's color suggestion as well. How big a diameter/circumference should the pot be if I choose round? I figure it's going to be about 2.5" inches deep. If you would choose an oval or round, tell me why. Thanks
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Ralph, Being the crown is "round" I would not opt for a round pot. Oval would be complimentary, while rectangular or square are a little too "man-made" in appearance as related to a "natural looking" tree. Just my opinion, in as little words as possible  .Being a round crown that is close to the same width as the height of the tree, the pot dimensions will be difficult. I would lean towards a pot slightly longer than the height/width (whichever is more), by maybe 20%. Just NOT the same measurement, and the tree should be off-set to one side (right). I personally believe that a tree like this in nature is usually out in a field by itself, so a longer pot gives the illusion of a spacious pasture, or the like. Cream colored is a can't miss. The old standby is depth should be close to trunk diameter, but here I would opt for slightly less (only do that when the tree can survive the change). Depending on the current rootball, that might take a few years (slowly transition to shallower containers). EDit: Virtual shows an approximate of pot placement, but it should be longer to the left by another couple of inches. Good luck with it. It has potential, John
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21-Mar-2005
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Mr. Ralph,
I too would choose an oval pot for this nice tree...Many years ago I was told that a round or square pot is a good choice to emphasize the trunk, whereas, an oval or rectangular pot will emphasize the canopy...This advice has always seemed to work well for me...In my opinion this tree has a lot more going for it in the canopy department than in the trunk, so definately an oval pot would be my choice... As Mr. John said, you can hardly go wrong with a nice cream or ivory color...I also really like his suggestions on canopy development, however I would probably choose a pot slightly less than the 'new' width of the canopy...Perhaps about 2/3 of the width... Nice tree, it has a very natural 'live oak' or 'cedar elm' feel to it which I think would be to your advantage to develop...I trust you will keep us updated on the progress as you develop it in the future... Regards Behr
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