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3-Feb-2003
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Chinese Elm Pot Suggestions Etc
I would like help and suggestions for this large-ish Chinese Elm.
The main thing I'm after is pot suggestions. But also, 1. There is a couple of nasty chopped roots at the current front, I would like to be able to lower the tree into the new pot to minimise this problem. I hope I can do it in one go, but if not... so be it. In peoples experience, how much can be removed from the bottom of the rootball and still be safe? 20%? 30%? 2. The lowest bow branch on the left I'm not sure about. If it goes, a big chunk of foliage goes with it. If it stays, it looks kind of odd. What to do? 3. The canopy outline is pretty rough in the pic, I have since tidied it up. But, any help and suggestions on how to improve the overall outline is most welcome. The first pic is pooking slightly upward...
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3-Feb-2003
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Tree herder
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looking slightly downwards...
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3-Feb-2003
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looking into the canopy...
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3-Feb-2003
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Tree herder
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final pic, looking from the left.
TIA Chris.
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3-Feb-2003
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Chris, NICE tree. I see what you mean about the cut roots. From the last picture it looks like the roots are better from what is now the rear. Is there a reason you are not thinking of that as the new front? (Or possibly a left/rear angle).
I will also be interested in your question as to how much and how quickly the tree can be lowered.
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3-Feb-2003
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Treebeard,
You can be pretty brutal with elms, especially healthy ones. You should be able to take 30-50% off without much trouble, unless it's all thick root with feeders only at the tip. I agree with Jay that the nebari looks better from the left side than the current "front"- there's that "Pigeon Breast" thing going on on the right. Whether you can use this I guess depends on how much you want to restructure the branches... I'll have to think abobut the branches. Jim TX |
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3-Feb-2003
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
 
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TB, I think you have a great specimen to work on there. I'm very envious. I think you are spot on with trying to hide those cut off roots. They are distracting to the eye.
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3-Feb-2003
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Perpetual beginner
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I agree from what I see in these pics that the left would serve better as the front. You could plant it at an angle to straighten the trunk and foliage and help bury the root chop while having to sacrifice less of the root ball.
My inexperienced opinion. Good luck.
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3-Feb-2003
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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My experience with bonsai is limited but I believe that I do have a good eye for aesthetics. I have looked at many bonsai in the past 2 years and studied the tree to pot relationship quite closely.
Here is my opinion on a pot choice for this tree: While I absolutely love the green pot it is in, I think it is far too fancy for the rugged look of this elm. I envision something more dainty in this pot. What I imagine for this tree is a very dark chocolatey brown unglazed rectangle with smooth corners. I did a virtual repot that you can view it in my gallery. (I didn't have anywhere else to upload to other than village photos, but they only allow small compressed images) Hope you like it. It was my first ever attempt at a virtual.  Joe Mc |
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3-Feb-2003
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bonsaiTALK Adept
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TB:
Neat tree! I wish I had one as nice. Concerning the nebari, I wonder if you could repot the tree into a grow box and bury the ugly part. By making a few nicks in the right places you could induce new root growth. Once this is done you could remove more of the root ball to regain the shallow aspect as it goes back into a bonsai pot. I realize this slows progress a bit but elms grow quite rapidly and it might be better than cutting too much root at the outset. I am a rank amature at this stuff so take that into account but it seems reasonable. I am not sure about the branch. Maybe by thinning out the center of the tree a bit you might get a better perspective of what to do.
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