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Old 21-Aug-2005   #11
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I believe that if you can straighten the trunk...

Took me a year and a decent size branch bender to get some movement into the trunk, no going back now.

But I do like your second (very fine btw) drawing, and I do think this is actually achievable without too much ado. I hadn't really though about going Shakkan, but I do think it works quite well. I also fits nicely with Matt's comment about mounting the tree on a slab. It's going to take the roots another two years minimum (would be my guestimate) before they'll fit on one though.

[Note to: self] Gotta go and get more pots... [/note]

I've used your drawing as an overlay and tried to 'bend' everything in place.

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Old 21-Aug-2005   #12
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Something like this (see virt)? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to tell me, but if I move the lower branches to a more upright pointing position, the angles in relation to the other branches seem to clash a bit. I realize it would need to grow out some more, but I don't really see those two branches ever achieving much girth, they are kind shaded out as it is at the moment.

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A little more like the attached, I think, but I like Andy's concept, too.

BTW (the trunk on the left in this virtual is a fractal version of the one on the right).

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Took me a year and a decent size branch bender to get some movement into the trunk, no going back now.
BTW, the sugggestions you get will be (rightfully) completely ignorant of any time or money you've invested... potentially doing the wrong things. That's water under the bridge and really has no bearing on what should be done know.

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Old 22-Aug-2005   #14
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BTW, the sugggestions you get will be (rightfully) completely ignorant of any time or money you've invested...
I do want opinions that are unadulterated by my own thoughts. This is also the reason why I didn't mention the two lower branches in my inital post.

I do want to thank you and everybody else for their great input. I am still not totally decided on whether I'm going to use those two lower branches for anything yet, but even if I were to Jin them at some point, I'd like there to be a bit more to work with first. So the branches will be staying for some time yet, and I'll see where that leaves me.

All in all, I do think that I'll be going the way of Matt's last virtual, which seems to me is a cross between Matt's first suggestion and Andy's second drawing.

Practically this means, I'll need to pinch the Apex quite heavily throughout the year. The right side main character branch will also need heavy pinching to keep it in place and to stop it from getting any barer on the inside. The second character branch on the left side will need less pruning so it can develop a bit more, and the back branch will receive moderate pinching. It can grow out a bit more, but not too much I think.The low left branches will receive no pinching, but I'll need to make sure they get more sunlight, otherwise the foilage will not be compact enough to be of much use as a potential 2nd trunk. Next spring I'll see if I can't get the tree into somewhat wider shallower pot, to start preparing it for a slab.

Does that sound about right?

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I like Andy's handling of the low branches too (sketch #2). They don't distract, and actually compliments the image I'd say.

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Stefan,

I believe that if you can straighten the trunk, you can keep the lowest branch (as in the image below). If not, which I suspect is the case, you should probably remove the lowest branches and reconfigure the trunk and foliage (as in the second image).

Kind regards,
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Excellent suggestions.


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IMHO Andy's second sketch is the winner for desing ideas with this.

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Excellent suggestions.
Gave up on the 'nice'? Anyway, I agree...
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IMHO Andy's second sketch is the winner for design ideas with this.
I second that. I'm pretty much decided on going that route, I think it is a realistic goal, and one that I can achieve.

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usepic#1 as your front-lean the whole thing a few more degrees-flatten and elongate your foliage pads-jin the bottom two branches-viola-your trunk wires look from here to be marking the trunk-or optical illusion-how long since wires have been removed?
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turned out that the tree was rather rootbound in its pot, so i did a quick repot on it...

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