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Old 12-Jul-2002   #1
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any ideas about this Cedar

I have this cedar that I think I am training in a weird way. It is/was about 2 1/2 ' tall before I wired it. Is this a good way of starting a bonsai? Does anyone have any questions or comments about this tree?
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Old 12-Jul-2002   #2
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another view

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Old 12-Jul-2002   #3
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Hi,

Just my 2 cents : I think this tree is really much to thin compared to it's length. If it were mine I would put it in the ground or a large growing box for a couple of years to fatten it up.
I would train it as a literati. Upright, with some bends and only foliage at the top. ( am working right now, so cannot make a virtual)

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IMHO it looks like a great candidate for a phoenix graft.
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Whidn,

I think Rene is right on this one. Almost everybody on this forum will tell you it either needs to go in a grow box or large garden pot. Once in a grow box or large container, leave it there for a few years. You will be supprised to see how much growth it will put on in 2-3 years in a grow box.

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I personally don't like the rainbow-shaped bend in the trunk. Look at photographs of well-designed cascade trees, either online or in books. I think you'll find this gradual bend to be very rare among those, for a reason.

Try sharper angles instead - I think there's little substitute at this point for looking at lots of previous trees and carefully studying what makes them effective.

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Old 12-Jul-2002   #7
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Pheonix graft

What the heck is a pheonix graft? I havent studied up too much on grafting. I plan to do so when I have more time to read. I havent even experimented with grafting yet but I plan to do so as well. Thank you everyone for all your comments and suggestions.
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Check the ***FAQ*** here or above under Bonsai Terms and look up Tanuki. It's the same thing

Since the understock of a Tanuki or Phoenix graft is just a dead piece of driftwood, it's not really a graft in the strictest sense. It's also guaranteed not to "take," but the illusion can be pretty realistic.

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