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Old 23-May-2007   #1
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$20 Tree (suggestions Needed)

Please...suggestions needed on the $20 tree I just bought. I thought the tree was an oak tree but the gentleman in the nursery said it was a CAROB TREE. He said the tree is a bean family.
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Old 23-May-2007   #2
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$20 Carob Tree

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Old 23-May-2007   #3
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Old 23-May-2007   #4
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What kind of suggestions are you looking for? If you're after care requirements, you need to fill out your public profile to let us know where you are.

This is a subtropical species (common called St. John's Bread) native to Mediterranean regions (it's also grown in the U.S. desert Southwest for its fruit) and can take limited frost--the tree should be outside if you're in a geographic location where it's springtime. If you live in a place where it gets belwo freezing in the winter, you'll have to make arrangements to bring the tree inside for the winter...

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/...ob.html#Climate
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Old 23-May-2007   #5
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What kind of suggestions are you looking for? If you're after care requirements, you need to fill out your public profile to let us know where you are.

This is a subtropical species (common called St. John's Bread) native to Mediterranean regions (it's also grown in the U.S. desert Southwest for its fruit) and can take limited frost--the tree should be outside if you're in a geographic location where it's springtime. If you live in a place where it gets belwo freezing in the winter, you'll have to make arrangements to bring the tree inside for the winter...

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/...ob.html#Climate

Thank you for the link. I am from California. I am new in this forum and fairly new with bonsai. I have many orchids and discovered bonsai as much, much more interesting and chalenging than my other hobbies; koi pond and orchids.

I need suggestions on how to orient the tree. Thank you very much.
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Old 23-May-2007   #6
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Zejer,

Welcome to B.T. and to bonsai. I’d be very happy with that tree especially for the price! The only thing that really concerns me is the big knuckle at the base of the tree. In photo 49187, it shows it quite clear. I can’t give you guidance as to the best way to fix it as I don’t know the tree and to be perfectly honest; I don't feel that I am at that level yet. If I were you I may want totry and ground layer it to develop roots around the bulge higher up on the trunk and improve the flow/taper. I am also interested in seeing what others say about that as my wife surprised me with a Scotts Pine from the garden center 2 weeks ago that has a similar bulge in about the same area. I am assuming it’s from being grafted? Can someone let me know if that’s a correct assumption? I love the tree though; very nice looking bark and it looks very healthy. Best of luck with it and keep us posted on the progress.



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The bulge on this tree is not a graft. My guess is it comes from being buried under the soil, which suppressed the trunk's expansion below. The inverse taper is the result.

Grafts on pines are problematic, especially bad ones. There's not alot that can be done. The graft "neck up" and bark differences between stock and scion usually get worse with age.

I'm not familiar with carob enough to help with design advice, as some of the more drastic things might be a little too rough for this species. Maybe someone with some experience with this species could help.
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