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20-Sep-2005
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Xylosma Congestum
I know, it sounds like an illness. Has anyone ever had any experience with these small trees? I picked one up today at a nursery for six bucks (70% off autumn sale). Has a two inch trunk, and is about two feet tall, destined to become an informal upright. I might even go back tomorrow and get another one. A little research suggests these will make great bonsai. Just wondering if any one has worked with these as nothing comes up in a search on the forum. Wish I had a pic to post. Sorry.
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20-Sep-2005
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In my experience as a landscape plant I have seen them as shrubs, hedges, and trees.They are fast growers. It is a nice looking plant.I have not tried it for Bonsai.Keep us posted.
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20-Sep-2005
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Xylosma congestum
OK, now, what's it really called?
Seriously, does it have a common name? Last edited by jfecme : 20-Sep-2005 at 12:43 PM. Reason: MISSPELLING |
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20-Sep-2005
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it seems to be called a "Shiny Xylosma". these trees have great natural trunk movement. look out for them if you are in zones 7-9.
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20-Sep-2005
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Don't know why it wouldn't work...It's a desert native, so you might have some issues with too much humidity in Houston--mold, mildew, sulking that kind of thing...
http://ag.arizona.edu/pima/gardenin..._congestum.html |
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20-Sep-2005
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Well, Xylosoma congestum. Why does one need a common name when one has the precise Latin name? As common names vary from place to place (my blue beech is your American Hornbeam is ironwood in some spots is Carpinus carolinina to all). Stick the latin name in when there is any doubt. It is good for you, helps to expand your understanding of a dead language and keeps everyone on target.
John (Homo sapiens arkansasaensis)~ aka hillbilly, arkie, redneck, get the picture? |
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18-Nov-2005
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Update
Finally able to post some pics. Here's that xylosma. Help with styling would be much appreciated. I know this has potential but I need a little guidance. I chopped it down pretty good back in late september. So far it has done fine putting out all the new foliage you see there.
I've attached a virtual of my idea for this one. Let me know what you think.
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18-Nov-2005
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Bonsai Master, in my mind
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Back Home in Northern California
Country: USA
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G'day Zen...
There is a Xylosma congestum in Porterville, CA that is registered as a California Big Tree. It is 31 feet high, with a trunk circumference of 50 inches and a spread of 35 feet for a total of 90 points. Sunset says it works in Climate Zones 8 through 24. This information is from the Urban Forest Ecosystems, College of Agriculture, California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo, California. I have one here in Oracle...it's doing well. However, I really haven't had any experience with it. Xylosma is native to the Orient...China, Japan, maybe both. It looks to me like you're off to a good start with yours. Good luck with it. Pat
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18-Nov-2005
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Bonsai Master, in my mind
Join Date: Feb-2005
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G'day all...
Just a word about why the botanical name is important... From Jim Lewis... "...Ironwood can be the American hornbeam (Carpinus caroliniana) which is an understory tree that likes damp soil. Ironwood also can be the American HOPhornbeam (Ostrya virginiana) which, while also an understory tree, likes quite dry soil. There is a Leguminous tree (whose name I cannot recall at the moment) which also is known as "ironwood." It likes tropical conditions, and somewhat salty water (it grows on the oceanfront). And then, there is the good old Casuarina that we've been taking about here. In some areas of the world (Hawaii for one) it too is known as "ironwood." It shares NO characteristics with any of the other ironwoods -- except perhaps for the tolerance to salty water, since it is extremelly tolerant of wind-blown salt spray. I think I checked once and found 15 trees in 15 Genera that were called "ironwood" in some area or another of this world...". My added note: There is also the Olneya tesota, aka Ironwood, native to Southern Arizona at elevations below 2,500’. Need I say more? Pat
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