Who's the Maple king?

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I'm in need of a little help from someone who knows about maple identification. I have two maples which I can't discover the cultivar. You can just see the trunk of each maple on the picture, if that is any help.

Can anyone help me?

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top_cat

Can no one help me? Can anyone advise me on how I might go about finding what cultivar these two are (without relying on kind members of the forum to tell me)?

kvnharv29

I use to have a huge book that had just about every maple in it, I think i rented it from the library. If you can find that book at your local library im sure it would help you out.
"A gardners guide to growing maples", i think thats what it was.


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I have a copy of J. Voorhees at home, but of course can't get to it right now. Try googleing Japanese maple cultivars or some such. A little digging ought to get you very close.

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node

try here: http://www.esveld.nl/catal/heestersa.htm

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Most of these maples are grown and sold and shipped by the owner of this website.

It seems imho that these might be the books to own on maples...

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The nomenclature of ACER is based on the book 'Maples of the World' by D.M. van Gelderen, Dr. H.J. Oterdoom en Dr. P.C. de Jong. This book is considered to be the major reference of the genus Acer for the next decades. 458 pages, more than 200 colour pictures and hundreds of line drawings make up this magnificent book.
'Maples of the World': price € 85.--.

In 1999 the new book by D.M. van Gelderen and C.J. van Gelderen: 'Maples for Gardens, The Illustrated Encyclopedia' was published. This new book is be a great pictorial guide to the beautiful maples with over 700 new pictures. A magnificent companion to 'Maples of the World'. Price: € 59.95.

"The Dutch Plant Collection of Acer is located on our nursery (the Aceretum) and includes over 600 species and cultivars and can be visited during business hours free of charge."


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I guess I better complete this now that I started it...

Recommended Literature:

D.M. van Gelderen & P.C. de Jong & H.J.Oterdoom : Maples of the World
C.J. van Gelderen & D.M. van Gelderen : Maples for Gardens, A Color Encyclopedia
Helmut Pirc : Ahorne
J.D. Vertrees & Revised and expanded by Peter Gregory : Japanese Maples
Masayoshi Yano : Book for Maples
Antoine le Hardy de Beaulieu : An Illustrated Guide to Maples

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Thanks guys for your help. I will start http://www.esveld.nl/catal/heestersa.htm and see if I can work out what maples there are.

Thanks for the recommended literature, I'll see if my local library has any.

node

I don't know if you have seen it, the page is quite jumbled up, but there is actually a key given you can use to start searching. Trying to figure out you types first, might let you exlude at least a part of the list right off...

Acers in the catelogue are devided into these types.:

type 1a: upright growing shrubs with 5-7 lobed green leaves
type 1b: upright growing shrubs with 5-7 lobed purple leaves
type 1c: upright growing shrubs with 5-7 lobed variegated leaves
type 1d: upright growing shrubs with 5-7 lobed pink or orange/yellow spring leaves
type 2a: upright growing shrubs with 7-lobed green leaves, cut to half the centre of the leaf.
type 2b: upright growing shrubs with 7-lobed purple leaves, cut to half the centre of the leaf
type 2c: upright growing shrubs with 7-lobed variegated leaves, cut to half the centre of the leaf
type 3a: large shrubs with 7-lobed green leaves, deeply divided almost up to the base
type 3b: large shrubs with 7-lobed purple leaves, deeply divided almost up to the base
type 3c: large shrubs with 7-lobed variegated leaves, deeply divided almost up to the base
type 4a: mushroom-shaped shrubs, with deeply divided, fern-like green leaves
type 4b: mushroom-shaped shrubs, with deeply divided, fern-like purple leaves
type 4a: mushroom-shaped shrubs, with deeply divided, fern-like variegated leaves
type 5a: upright growing shrubs with linear green leaves
type 5b: upright growing shrubs with linear purple leaves
type 6a: dwarf forms, green-leaved
type 6b: dwarf forms, purple-leaved or variegated
type 7: aberrant forms, not fitting in the above categories.

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Thanks node. I hadn't spotted that

From what I can make out the first maple is from one of these four groups:
type 1a: upright growing shrubs with 5-7 lobed green leaves
type 1d: upright growing shrubs with 5-7 lobed pink or orange/yellow spring leaves
type 5a: upright growing shrubs with linear green leaves ()
type 6a: dwarf forms, green-leaved ( how do I know if its dwarfed)

Not just have to work out what cultivar it is from these.

Thanks again for your help

Hasaki

I'm going to guess..'Kiyohime'+'Kashima'.

Hasaki