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16-Jun-2008

Kazoo

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What the heck IS this thing?

Thinking it was a volunteer Ulmus, I dug it out of a parking lot crack.

It has grown.

The branches come off the main trunk at 180 degree angles. ONLY on the sides. None front or back (?)

And it appears that they do the same thing off the branches. Just sprout to the sides.

Anyone recognize it?

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16-Jun-2008	#2
Staselwood Staselwood Bonsai Studio Join Date: Sep-2005 Location: Newark (Hanover), Ohio Country: USA USDA Zone: 5b AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 207	its an elm for sure... but what variant i am not sure... there are a bunch out there. Good Luck! __________________ *Jeffery Carr* Staselwood Bonsai Studio Hanover, Ohio cell: 740-403-0215 ...Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now... www.staselwoodbonsai.com mailto:jcarr@staselwoodbonsai.com Your Source for: Tools, Wire, Soil, Pots, Bonsai and More.

16-Jun-2008	#3
jeremy_norbury bonsaiTALK Master Chief Join Date: Sep-2003 Location: Amstelveen Country: Netherlands USDA Zone: 8 AHS Heat Zone: 2-3 Posts: 1,508	Chinese Elm - I take it back, the leaves are quite serrated. Probably Zelkova Serrata. __________________ All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Spike Milligan I told you I was ill. Spike Milligan's Gravestone Last edited by jeremy_norbury : 16-Jun-2008 at 04:53 PM.

16-Jun-2008	#4
Kazoo Spider mite Join Date: May-2005 Location: california sacramento valley USDA Zone: z9 AHS Heat Zone: 8 Posts: 278	What's with the weird branch thing? They look like telephone pole climbing spikes. Does it want to be a FLAT tree? Wouldn't Zelkova leaves be longer?

16-Jun-2008

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazoo

What's with the weird branch thing? They look like telephone pole climbing spikes. Does it want to be a FLAT tree?

Wouldn't Zelkova leaves be longer?

90 degree branches is quite normal.

Longer leaves, yes, no, maybe. It's also very similar to a cork bark elm I have - which has quite serrated leaves.

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16-Jun-2008	#6
Joanie Enthusiast *MODERATOR GROUP* Join Date: Feb-2005 Location: Carlsbad, California..coastal desert Country: United States USDA Zone: 11 AHS Heat Zone: 2 Posts: 5,433	Looks like regular Chinese elm to me. Give it time, it will have plenty of branches! Joanie __________________ Dogs are just children who eat off the floor

16-Jun-2008	#7
bonsaial1 Bonsai Doer Join Date: Aug-2001 Location: Fresno, CA Country: USA USDA Zone: 9 AHS Heat Zone: 13SH Posts: 5,369	They grow that way all year long on the branches, but you should bud on the trunk most anywhere. If you are looking for more branches along the trunk just cut back all the branches to one pair of leaves. It should sprout in three weeks everywhere. Cheers, Al __________________ A tree a day...thats all we ask.

16-Jun-2008	#8
Kazoo Spider mite Join Date: May-2005 Location: california sacramento valley USDA Zone: z9 AHS Heat Zone: 8 Posts: 278	I think I'll try that. I have a cork bark elm with the serrated leaves but it sure branches out all around the trunk. http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9458/p1010836fv3.jpg

17-Jun-2008	#9
kcpoole bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman Join Date: May-2006 Location: Sydney Country: Australia Posts: 842	I have a chinese Elm that only shoots on opposite Sides of a branch as it is growing and left alone. As soon As i Chop it, it will bud back and shoot on all differents si9des of the branch or trunk ps. It looks exaclty like yours does so think you have Chinese Elm Ken __________________ When engineers work out how to make something Idiot proof, humanity invents a better Idiot

17-Jun-2008	#10
newt1 bonsaiTALK Master Join Date: Mar-2007 Location: Augusta, MI Country: US Posts: 254	Looks like Siberian elm to me. Many around here call them Chinese elms. Not sure if they grow out there or not though, they are all over the place here. Newt __________________ We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing! Check out my blog: http://knowledgeofbonsai.org/eric_newton/ Connection with gardens, even small ones, even potted plants, can become windows to the inner life. The simple act of stopping and looking at the beauty around us can be prayer. -Patricia R. Barrett

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