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Old 20-Sep-2007   #1
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Question Very very very long post lots of pics!

Hi everyone! Ok here goes...I've never posted pics before so hopefully they'll work and be in the right order and stuff. So I have three trees I want to talk about, two in need of your help and one doing ok which I just want to show off! I'll start with my Chinese elm...

Chinese elm:
Hopefully if I've done this right the elm pics will show first underneath this post! So my elm I've had for a good while now, around a year. My dad picked it up on sale at the garden centre for £5 as it was dying, it looked awful. With some tlc and a new pot it turned around and looked fantastic. Covered in leaves and looked really healthy. Recently (in the last month) I've been having trouble with the leaves turning yello, brown, crispy and falling off. I thought lack of water so I gave more...this made it worse so I gave less...this made it worse! I can't figure it out, it hasn't been moved, isn't in a draught, has good drainage and was healthy in this position until a short time ago. The only thing I can think off that has changed is our crazy British summer, boiling one minute freezing the next although the temp. inside is fairly constant. So please help if you can!

Some sort of pine!:
I've recently (two weeks ago) inherited some kind of a pine and have a few questions. As you can see she's a big old girl so I want to be very careful not to lose her. Also my first evergreen so I'm a bit lost! I'd like to know
a) what is it?
b) does it's position look ok?
c) should I repot?
Also the tree has lots of one sided growth (previous owner obviously didn't turn it) will it rectify itself or always be this way? Also should I prune it and if so in what style, it doesn't seem to have a definate shape but there may be one hiding under all that mess that I just can't see!

My Fukien Tea:
This tree is my baby, so easy to care for and has been flowering now for nearly 6 months so I must be doing something right! It lives on the shelf next to the elm and I just thought I'd show her off cos she's gorgeous!

Once again sorry about the length of the post but I may as well get it all out in one! I hope somebody can help, all opinions appreciated and considered!

Pictures:
1) Placement of all three trees
2) Elm
3) What am i?
4) Repot pine?
5) Tea

Thanks guys!!!
Jo x
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Old 20-Sep-2007   #2
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that is not a pine and will die if you leave it where you have it by the window.
put it outside or its health will decline rapidly. and i bet those other trees aren't getting nearly enough light. feed them and put them all outside.
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value is right that is not enough light for theelm and it could also go outside probably. the "pine" is a juniper and should also go outside all year with protection in the winter. nice looking juniper by the way, it could use a little touching up some day when you get a chance. the fukien looks healthy and happy.
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Tropicals need to be indoors through the winter with plenty of natural light supplemented by grow lights for about a total of 14-16 hours a day.

I couldn't tell about the pine. Looks more like juniper torulosa, or what we call Hollywood juniper. Here it would be an outdoor tree all year. I wouldn't attempt to re-pot or prune until spring.

Could your elm be experiencing the beginning of fall/winter dormancy?
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The evergreen in question looks like a juniper. They tend to go premanently dormant if left inside. I suggest getting it outside, and if you don't have an outside spot, you may want to sell it or trade it for something better adapted to indoor life. If you do repot it, I would suggest waiting until the spring, it'll be much happier if you do.

Regarding the elm, what kind of soil is it in? You said it drains well, how well? How frequently do you water?

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I'm in agreement about not enough light for any of them except maybe the Fukien. I have chinese elm inside and they've been there for a couple years and they all look great, BUT they sit on south east facing windowsills and I turn the pots a bit every day.

Good luck turning the elm around.
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Thanks for the replys. I've put them outside now but am a bit worried as we're starting to have ground frost here at night now. Temp. between 1 and 3 degrees, are you sure they will be ok as they've been inside all their lives?
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It's also very windy, the remaining leaves are just blowing off the elm.
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I'm not too far away from you.
Your "Pine" is certainly a Juniper and will be better outside all year once it is aclimatised.

The others will be OK for a few more weeks, but start putting them into a Garage or Shed for protection if you are at all concerned about outside temps.

They need to adjust s..l..o..w..ly.

Bring them back out in the morning so long as it is not too cold.

Tropicals should be indoors with plenty of light during winter and only sufficient water to keep the soil just moist.

This is known as the "two step" that many have to do with tropicals and tender species.

Do not water the elm, ....with no leaves it just needs slight moisture.
Keep outdoors in a sheltered spot and protect from frost.

It will be spring now before you will hopefully see new growth.

Read up more on here and in books over the Autumn and Winter

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It's also very windy, the remaining leaves are just blowing off the elm.
It is Autumn and Ulmus are deciduous. Although if they went straight out from shelter to an exsposed area you have caused it a lot of stress. Pup
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