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Old 14-Jul-2003   #1
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Valuable Vs. Precious

Andy's thread "Bonsai Bigotry" deserves the blame for this thread; it was what got me thinking about this. I didn't think it was close enough to his subject to add it to his thread, however.

In the English language, the words "valuable" and "precious" are similar in meaning, but DO NOT mean the same thing. Valuable refers to how the market evaluates the worth of something; precious refers to how important something is to ourself, personally. Something that is very precious to us may not be very valuable and vica versa.

I think that there is a heavy tide in the Western World towards substituting a pursuit of what is thought to be valuable for what is precious. Certainly, in my life, I gave up alot that was precious in the pursuit of that which seemed valuable. It is the usual price of "getting ahead".

I find tremendous confusion in my own mind regarding the value vs. the preciousness of Bonsai. What is REALLY the point of either doing or having Bonsai? Is it because they are valuable or because they are precious? Reading the Bonsai forums does little to clear it up. I think most people think "both" without realizing the degree to which this creates confusion, turmoil and uncertainty

For me, Bonsai provides the opportunity to turn to the creation and enjoyment of something precious. Now, this does not mean that I'm an adherrent of the school of "doing it just for myself" without regard for what others think. Far from it! I see Bonsai as a community activity, with a great deal of the enjoyment of it coming from the sharing of it's pleasures with others.

When I came back to Bonsai 2 years ago and started particpating in another forum, I was shocked at the competitivenss and hostility between bonsai enthusiasts. It seemed like the bonsai community was just like the world of business that I'd left in 1999: stressful, competive and, in many ways, mean-spirited. Not that it did not have many redeeming virtues, just as the world of business has. But, at it's core, it seemed to me merely an extension of that world rather than the very different one that I sought. And, at that, not a particularly successful extension of it, with a rather exageratted sense of its own importance.

Andy's thread has me feeling very melancholy. As I have read increasing amounts of what he writes, I am increasingly impressed by what a talented and well-meaning person he is. He is clearly greatly affected by the world's indifference to the great love of his life. He has clearly not yet put aside that which he loves in favor of making money, a decision I made when I left the Marine Corps at age 27 and opted for a career in Computer System Development. Now, I'm certainly enjoying a much more comfortable retirement than I would have if I'd followed my heart, but there are times that I wonder.........

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Old 14-Jul-2003   #2
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Hmmm, very interesting indeed...

I've found myself doing bonsai that, under the 'dictionary' definition, are probably more precious than valuable. Most of my bonsai would most likely not be valuable to the rest of the bonsai community, but they are of high importance to me because I have raised them (as short amount of time as that may be for a newbie guy like me).

Recently, I've been wanting to purchase something more valuable. That is, something that the bonsai community would absolutely love and I could show it off to everyone, but the drawback is I would not have any past experience with this tree (training, growing, etc.), and thus it would not be precious to me. I would much rather a tree be important to me than to someone else (although if it were both, that would be wonderful); and thus I've put off the above purchase for a while.

I'd like to think that I will not give up my precious bonsai for valuable bonsai; however, gaining more valuable bonsai and giving up some precious bonsai may just be part of the artist's journey.
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Fred this is a more 'relaxed' forum than some others. The less accomplished artist have a home here. There are several top notch artist who also feel comfortable here and the mix from top to bottom is what makes this work (thank you Matt!).

Interesting, "valuable" and "precious" are the perfect way to equate the difference in my trees, terms I never verbalized our though in. My trees move from valuable to precious as the amount of effort and time I have placed in them increases. The value may also increase but the fact that they become "precious" is of more import.

I too do not want to say I "do" Bonsai just for me, but, I must do it to satisfy me first!

I think many of us enjoy bringing our trees to club meetings or workshops and getting help/advise/hands on help with these trees. We all try and grow in our abilities.

We come here for interaction and to learn and share what we know.

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