Undisputable Truths - bonsaiTALK Community

15-Jul-2003	#1
bonsaial1 Greybeard Join Date: Aug-2001 Location: Fresno, CA Country: USA USDA Zone: 9 AHS Heat Zone: 13SH Posts: 5,206	Undisputable Truths We talk about the internet in bonsai and its relevency, enthusiast versus bonsaist, artist versus collector. Some of the first threads talked about on the fledgling pages of bonsaiTALK were about mallsai, and their way of cheapening the word "bonsai." I remember the first time Andy came to the forum and talked about artistry in bonsai, Europe versus USA in artistic ability. We talked of the word art and the way it is thrown about and somehow again dimishing the real artistic endeavors of those in the know. Many times we have talked about stock, how it is grown, what is important, roots or trunk, nebari or branches. We have beat this horse so hard it had to be put down. Several times! Undisputable Truths: 1. There will always be enthusiasts, and artists, hobbiest, and craftsman. I don't see any reason to seperate them, they will always be there! 2. There will always be collectors and artists. They will each show trees and claim them for their own. They will win prizes eventhough they did not create the art. So what! 3. There will always be someone better then you. No matter how good you get there is someone that will know more or have more talant. 4. Roots are important, including trunk, branches, ramification, wireing, and health. 5. There will always be someone that has better trees then you, more stands, a scroll, better suiseki. 6. You do reach a point when you actually learn no more. Some people just burn out and give up. 7. Some people will never get it, no matter how much they read or study. 8. The harder you train, the less likely your collection will grow. Trees just don't look the same as they did before, and the trees you want are always just out of reach financially. 9. It will cost lots of money if you want a quality collection. Quality bonsai comes from quality stock and they cost more money. 10. With time, every bonsai lover will gradually move to Suiseki, and then to Kusomono. Nature of the beast. 11. Kimura to the tenth power is out there. Care to add any more? Bonsai-al __________________ Experience is fundamental Last edited by bonsaial1 : 15-Jul-2003 at 02:35 AM.

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15-Jul-2003	#2
acousticco Old at heart Join Date: Jun-2003 Location: Calgary Country: Canada USDA Zone: Zone 3 AHS Heat Zone: 3-4 Posts: 312	What's Kusomono?

15-Jul-2003	#3
TreeBay Tips:5¢ Advice:Free *MODERATOR GROUP* Join Date: Aug-2001 Location: Silicon Valley Country: USA USDA Zone: 9 AHS Heat Zone: 4 Posts: 9,738	Oops! Someone mistyped. "Kusamono" are weeds and grasses. "Kudamono" are fruits., but "Kusomono" is, uh, fecal matter. This is not quite as entertaining as an entire writeup I saw in an online gardening site on "kusamomo," which you might translate to something along the lines of "fuzzy peach-butt" Regards __________________ Want to be a seller on bonsaiAUCTIONS? Get authorized today! bonsaiTALK: Over 100,005.36 Megabytes Served this Month!

15-Jul-2003	#4
Treebeard Tree herder Join Date: Aug-2002 Location: Maidenhead Country: England USDA Zone: 8b AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 2,200	<chuckle>... __________________ "Do not be hasty, that is my motto" -JRR Tolkien, The Two Towers. ----------------------------------- christopherguise.co.uk

15-Jul-2003	#5
Jay YOU CAN NOT RUSH TIME Join Date: Sep-2001 Location: Jeffersonville Vt Country: USA USDA Zone: 4 AHS Heat Zone: 3 Posts: 2,154	OK ..... Al, come clean (all puns intended) which was the correct word you were looking for........................... Jay __________________ A Bonsai student living with his trees at N 44.37 W 77.49... Think before you act... then think again... no good comes from rushing

15-Jul-2003	#6
Bonsainut Carrier of Bonsai Fever Join Date: Oct-2001 Location: So-Cal, US of A Country: America The Beautiful USDA Zone: Zone 9-10 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 1,833	good insight Al. but "10. With time, every bonsai lover will gradually move to Suiseki, and then to Kusomono. Nature of the beast." Maybe You should include more fibre in your diet, mix in some bran or sumptin... P.S. "Accent plants" might be safer, and it's english so you can understand it. __________________ Keep growing,---'Nut Lethal Use of Farce Last edited by Bonsainut : 15-Jul-2003 at 04:26 PM.

15-Jul-2003

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10. With time, every bonsai lover will gradually move to Suiseki, and then to Kusomono. Nature of the beast.

I can't deny that, I'm slowly moving into suiseki. I prefer bonsai to suiseki any day because bonsai is an ongoing project while suiseki eventually "collects dust".

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