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Old 6-Feb-2004   #1
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Upset Trees I Won't Grow Again!!

This is meant as sort of an adjunct to the "Trees Killed - Lessons Learned" Thread.

All of us have some trees that we've tried and will no longer bother with. Besides the decisions based on our own location, such as "I don't have a sunny enough spot for pines.", let's share the trees that we have come to feel just aren't worth the irritation, and why.

I envision two categories: (species here are my experience.)

I look at serissas and they die.

I just can't keep up with the trimming a musk-scented maple requires, and they stink!

Hopefully we can help out some of the novices.
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Old 6-Feb-2004   #2
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Bart and all:
I WONT GROW ANY LARGE TREES!!!!!

Regardless of the specie; as one gets older, one must think of his back, and that means smaller trees....

Not that I don't have a Ficus Nerifolia forest that ways close to fifty pounds, (Thanks Ron Martin and my wife), but from here on out I will stick to the Shohin size.

Now you know why I have to do weight training every other day, just to keep in shape to handle the pinching etc.LOLFOTC..
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Trees that I will not try again:

Fukien Tea too fussy
Serissa too fussy
Stewartia not partial to my seasons
Olive not partial to my seasons
anything not partial to my seasons

Orange Jasmine and boxwoods....too slow for my age..I suppose if a large specimen came my way...I wouldnt say no.

Anything mame.....my schedule would not permit the trees needs for mame



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Bristlecone pine and azaleas have not worked well for me.
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i am still young so i just stick to the quote "if at first you dont succeed, try, try again"
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i am still young so i just stick to the quote "if at first you dont succeed, try, try again"


I'm looking for folks who have already done that. Mainly to warn newbies that these species can be difficult. If they want to try, fine, just don't get a guilt trip if it doesn't work.

I've learned that, if the local bonsai nurseries don't carry the species, there may be a very good reason. So ask before you go scrambling around the internet to buy one. You won't hurt their feelings, and, if you make it work, they'll be delighted to learn from you.

I have a ficus that I styled in a workshop. Every time I take it to the master from whom I got it, he remarks on its health and vigor.
The clue may be more in what I'm not doing than in what I am. The same applies with another nursery and my Texas Ebonies. Who knows?

Perhaps it has something to do with my attempt to cope with my nervous watering habits by using a coarser soil mix. Perhaps a shadier spot in the heat of summer. Live and learn.

Carl can grow buttonwood; I have followed his directions, and, with the exception of a silver buttonwood, I haven't been able to make it work. Even though the silver buttonwood is a more southern species. Perhaps I got it into the faster draining soil sooner. Who knows? At any rate, I'm not willing to spend the bucks for a good speciment until I know I can make it thrive.
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I probably will never grow junipers again. They are too fussy to bother with.
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Anything that is suggested to be an "indoor" Bonsai in your climate. Unless you have a dedicated geenhouse with optimal conditions.
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Old 8-Feb-2004   #9
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I will probably won't do pines for a long time. They don't like me and they're too fuzzy. Candle pruning, bud selection, not too much water, pfffff. I have had two. The first one didn't survive it's first winter and the second one lost all of his low branches. Pines are definitly for the advanced bonsai-ists.

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I'm for BonsaiORs suggestion on providing optimum growing conditions for 'indoor plants' , and add.. using plants indigenous to your area.
.. to be species specific,
personally I find the fukein tea a bothersom plant. It attrachs insect of all sorts and doesn't like cooler temps and low light I have been providing in the winters since moving north of so. fl.
Junipers in zone 10, so. fl., but here in zone 8 they do great.
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