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Old 27-Mar-2005   #1
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Question Suitable Juniper & Cypresses?

can anyone tell me which of these trees is suitable for bonsai

SPECIES CULTIVAR


CEDEREUS deodara

CEPHALOTAXUS harringtonia Fastigiata

CHAMAECYPARIS lawsoniana Blue Jacket
CHAMAECYPARIS lawsoniana Green Globe
CHAMAECYPARIS obtusa Gracillis
CHAMAECYPARIS obtusa Kosterii
CHAMAECYPARIS obtusa Nana
CHAMAECYPARIS obtusa Nana Aurea
CHAMAECYPARIS obtusa Pygmaea
CHAMAECYPARIS pisifera Baby Blue
CHAMAECYPARIS pisifera Filifera Aurea
CHAMAECYPARIS pisifera Squarrosa Intermedia
CHAMAECYPARIS thyiodes Rubicon

CRYPTOMERIA japonica Globosa Nana
CRYPTOMERIA japonica Sekkan Sugi
CRYPTOMERIA japonica Tanzu

CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Castewellan Gold
CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Gold Medal
CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Gold Rider
CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Leighton Green
CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Naylors Blue
CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Silver Dust
CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Star Wars
CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Robinsons Gold

CUPRESSUS cashmeriana
CUPRESSUS glabra Blue Ice
CUPRESSUS glabra Blue Pyramid
CUPRESSUS glabra Blue Streak
CUPRESSUS glabra Kerada Seaspray
CUPRESSUS glabra Sulphurea
CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Brunniana
CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Donnards Gold
CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Canneys Gold
CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Conybeari
CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Gold Crest
CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Gold Pillar
CUPRESSUS sempervirens Glauca
CUPRESSUS sempervirens Gracillis
CUPRESSUS sempervirens Nitschke’s Needle
CUPRESSUS sempervirens Stricta
CUPRESSUS sempervirens Stricta Special
CUPRESSUS sempervirens Swanes Golden
CUPRESSUS torulosa Arctic Green

JUNIPERUS chinensis Africana Nana
JUNIPERUS chinensis Blue Point
JUNIPERUS chinensis Femina
JUNIPERUS chinensis Kaizuka
JUNIPERUS chinensis Kaizuka Variagated
JUNIPERUS chinensis Robusta Green
JUNIPERUS chinensis Variagata
JUNIPERUS communis Gold Cone
JUNIPERUS communis Hibernica
SPECIES CULTIVAR
JUNIPERUS communis Little Spire
JUNIPERUS horizontalis Advancetown
JUNIPERUS horizontalis Blue Forest
JUNIPERUS horizontalis Glauca
JUNIPERUS procumbens Nana
JUNIPERUS sargenti
JUNIPERUS sabina Blue Danube
JUNIPERUS scopulorum Dew Drop
JUNIPERUS scopulorum Blue Heaven
JUNIPERUS scopulorum Grey Gleam
JUNIPERUS squamata Blue Carpet
JUNIPERUS squamata Blue Star
JUNIPERUS squamata Blue Spider
JUNIPERUS squamata Gold Flash
JUNIPERUS squamata Loderi
JUNIPERUS squamata Prostrata
JUNIPERUS squamata Prostrata Aurea
JUNIPERUS taxifolia Luchuensis
JUNIPERUS virginiana Cupressifolia (Hillspire)
JUNIPERUS virginiana Pathfinder
JUNIPERUS virginiana Sky Rocket
JUNIPERUS virginiana Spartan
JUNIPERUS x media Daubs Frosted
JUNIPERUS x media Gold Coast
JUNIPERUS x media Lemon Hill
JUNIPERUS x media Old Gold
JUNIPERUS x media Shimpaku
JUNIPERUS x media Sovereign

THUJA occidentalis Danica
THUJA occidentalis Fastigiata
THUJA occidentalis Globosa
THUJA occidentalis Golden Globe
THUJA occidentalis Heather Bun
THUJA occidentalis Hetz Midget
THUJA occidentalis Rheingold
THUJA occidentalis Smargd
THUJA occidentalis Star Struck
THUJA orientalis Blue Cone
THUJA orientalis Cedar Lodge
THUJA orientalis Columnaris
THUJA orientalis Golden Raay
THUJA orientalis Hilleri
THUJA orientalis Laureli
THUJA orientalis Lucasi
THUJA orientalis Martin's Gold
THUJA orientalis Meldensis
THUJA orientalis Morgani
THUJA orientalis Nana (Green Biota)
THUJA orientalis Nana Aurea (Golden Biota)
THUJA orientalis Nana Glauca
THUJA orientalis Raffles
THUJA oreintalis Rosedallis
THUJA orientalis Shirls Supreme
THUJA orientalis Wangs Green
THUJA plicata George Washington
THUJA plicata Stoneham Gold

MAGNOLIA grandiflora Little Gem


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That's quite a list, most of which I have not worked with. With regards to the juniper here are some that are commonly used in bonsai

JUNIPERUS procumbens Nana
JUNIPERUS sargenti
JUNIPERUS x media Shimpaku

Of course I'm sure there are some on the list that are good bonsai that I'm not familar with. Some of the species I was familar with but not the cultivar.

I have second-hand info to stay away from JUNIPERUS x media Old Gold. (An info sheet on the web said it was short-lived.


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Generally speaking, you can make a bonsai from any of these, but some will be quite difficult to train and have characteristics that make them less suitable than others.

I would cross the leylandi and thujas off my list right away, unless someone had a 100-year-old collected specimen with wonderful deadwood that was worth keeping just on that basis.

Cryptomeria are fine, most of the chamaecyparis (false cypress) are okay, but some are a lot of work to maintain and don't backbud well.

On the Italian Cypress (Cup. sempervirens) I have never seen one as a bonsai. I saw one in a bonsai pot, but it was not a bonsai.

Junipers you need to take on a case-by-case basis. I'd steer clear of anything variegated. If I were choosing something for propagation - stick with shimpaku juniper and needle juniper (J. rigida or J. 'foemina'). Japanese Garden Juniper (J.Procumbens 'NANA') is fine to work with and readily available. Not really worth propagating for any reason, but fine material.

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cool thanx for the replies.

the reason i started this post is because i have recently found a nursery that only sells cypress and pines and this was there list of species that they sell

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CEDEREUS deodara (Cedrus Deodara)

The Himalayan Cedar works quite well as bonsai

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I'm with Matt on avoiding anything variegrated. I'd also avoid "gold" cultivars. While they can make a nice accent in a garden, put them in a bonsai pot, and I wonder if they're sick.

I'm sure that great bonsai of both types exist, but these demonstrated their potential first, and, probably, were not nursery stock when they began as bonsai.
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CEDEREUS deodara (Cedrus Deodara)

The Himalayan Cedar works quite well as bonsai

Qaelan

A few months ago, I picked up a deodara. I've enjoyed it as a five foot tree but have not reduced the hieght because I'm not getting the secondary branches I had hoped for. That being said, I was visiting a bonsai nursery and the owner was working on a large (eight hand) deodara that had fabulous branching and ramification.

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Barry,

I've had the same experience, the best deodara I've seen was about 1.5m (bonsai, not yard plant).

In my mind they don't make great small bonsai, and I'd say the minimum height would be around 40 - 50 cm (YMMV)

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