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Join Date: Aug-2004
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can anyone tell me which of these trees is suitable for bonsai
SPECIES CULTIVAR CEDEREUS deodara CEPHALOTAXUS harringtonia Fastigiata CHAMAECYPARIS lawsoniana Blue Jacket CHAMAECYPARIS lawsoniana Green Globe CHAMAECYPARIS obtusa Gracillis CHAMAECYPARIS obtusa Kosterii CHAMAECYPARIS obtusa Nana CHAMAECYPARIS obtusa Nana Aurea CHAMAECYPARIS obtusa Pygmaea CHAMAECYPARIS pisifera Baby Blue CHAMAECYPARIS pisifera Filifera Aurea CHAMAECYPARIS pisifera Squarrosa Intermedia CHAMAECYPARIS thyiodes Rubicon CRYPTOMERIA japonica Globosa Nana CRYPTOMERIA japonica Sekkan Sugi CRYPTOMERIA japonica Tanzu CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Castewellan Gold CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Gold Medal CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Gold Rider CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Leighton Green CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Naylors Blue CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Silver Dust CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Star Wars CUPRESSOCYPARIS leylandii Robinsons Gold CUPRESSUS cashmeriana CUPRESSUS glabra Blue Ice CUPRESSUS glabra Blue Pyramid CUPRESSUS glabra Blue Streak CUPRESSUS glabra Kerada Seaspray CUPRESSUS glabra Sulphurea CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Brunniana CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Donnards Gold CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Canneys Gold CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Conybeari CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Gold Crest CUPRESSUS macrocarpa Gold Pillar CUPRESSUS sempervirens Glauca CUPRESSUS sempervirens Gracillis CUPRESSUS sempervirens Nitschke’s Needle CUPRESSUS sempervirens Stricta CUPRESSUS sempervirens Stricta Special CUPRESSUS sempervirens Swanes Golden CUPRESSUS torulosa Arctic Green JUNIPERUS chinensis Africana Nana JUNIPERUS chinensis Blue Point JUNIPERUS chinensis Femina JUNIPERUS chinensis Kaizuka JUNIPERUS chinensis Kaizuka Variagated JUNIPERUS chinensis Robusta Green JUNIPERUS chinensis Variagata JUNIPERUS communis Gold Cone JUNIPERUS communis Hibernica SPECIES CULTIVAR JUNIPERUS communis Little Spire JUNIPERUS horizontalis Advancetown JUNIPERUS horizontalis Blue Forest JUNIPERUS horizontalis Glauca JUNIPERUS procumbens Nana JUNIPERUS sargenti JUNIPERUS sabina Blue Danube JUNIPERUS scopulorum Dew Drop JUNIPERUS scopulorum Blue Heaven JUNIPERUS scopulorum Grey Gleam JUNIPERUS squamata Blue Carpet JUNIPERUS squamata Blue Star JUNIPERUS squamata Blue Spider JUNIPERUS squamata Gold Flash JUNIPERUS squamata Loderi JUNIPERUS squamata Prostrata JUNIPERUS squamata Prostrata Aurea JUNIPERUS taxifolia Luchuensis JUNIPERUS virginiana Cupressifolia (Hillspire) JUNIPERUS virginiana Pathfinder JUNIPERUS virginiana Sky Rocket JUNIPERUS virginiana Spartan JUNIPERUS x media Daubs Frosted JUNIPERUS x media Gold Coast JUNIPERUS x media Lemon Hill JUNIPERUS x media Old Gold JUNIPERUS x media Shimpaku JUNIPERUS x media Sovereign THUJA occidentalis Danica THUJA occidentalis Fastigiata THUJA occidentalis Globosa THUJA occidentalis Golden Globe THUJA occidentalis Heather Bun THUJA occidentalis Hetz Midget THUJA occidentalis Rheingold THUJA occidentalis Smargd THUJA occidentalis Star Struck THUJA orientalis Blue Cone THUJA orientalis Cedar Lodge THUJA orientalis Columnaris THUJA orientalis Golden Raay THUJA orientalis Hilleri THUJA orientalis Laureli THUJA orientalis Lucasi THUJA orientalis Martin's Gold THUJA orientalis Meldensis THUJA orientalis Morgani THUJA orientalis Nana (Green Biota) THUJA orientalis Nana Aurea (Golden Biota) THUJA orientalis Nana Glauca THUJA orientalis Raffles THUJA oreintalis Rosedallis THUJA orientalis Shirls Supreme THUJA orientalis Wangs Green THUJA plicata George Washington THUJA plicata Stoneham Gold MAGNOLIA grandiflora Little Gem cheers jarryd
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Bonsai Barry
Join Date: Dec-2004
Location: Santa Maria, CA
Country: USA
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That's quite a list, most of which I have not worked with. With regards to the juniper here are some that are commonly used in bonsai
JUNIPERUS procumbens Nana JUNIPERUS sargenti JUNIPERUS x media Shimpaku Of course I'm sure there are some on the list that are good bonsai that I'm not familar with. Some of the species I was familar with but not the cultivar. I have second-hand info to stay away from JUNIPERUS x media Old Gold. (An info sheet on the web said it was short-lived. Barry
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Generally speaking, you can make a bonsai from any of these, but some will be quite difficult to train and have characteristics that make them less suitable than others.
I would cross the leylandi and thujas off my list right away, unless someone had a 100-year-old collected specimen with wonderful deadwood that was worth keeping just on that basis. Cryptomeria are fine, most of the chamaecyparis (false cypress) are okay, but some are a lot of work to maintain and don't backbud well. On the Italian Cypress (Cup. sempervirens) I have never seen one as a bonsai. I saw one in a bonsai pot, but it was not a bonsai. Junipers you need to take on a case-by-case basis. I'd steer clear of anything variegated. If I were choosing something for propagation - stick with shimpaku juniper and needle juniper (J. rigida or J. 'foemina'). Japanese Garden Juniper (J.Procumbens 'NANA') is fine to work with and readily available. Not really worth propagating for any reason, but fine material. Regards, Matt
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bonsaiTALK Master
Join Date: Aug-2004
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cool thanx for the replies.
the reason i started this post is because i have recently found a nursery that only sells cypress and pines and this was there list of species that they sell cheers jarryd
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I'm with Matt on avoiding anything variegrated. I'd also avoid "gold" cultivars. While they can make a nice accent in a garden, put them in a bonsai pot, and I wonder if they're sick.
I'm sure that great bonsai of both types exist, but these demonstrated their potential first, and, probably, were not nursery stock when they began as bonsai. ![]() |
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Bonsai Barry
Join Date: Dec-2004
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A few months ago, I picked up a deodara. I've enjoyed it as a five foot tree but have not reduced the hieght because I'm not getting the secondary branches I had hoped for. That being said, I was visiting a bonsai nursery and the owner was working on a large (eight hand) deodara that had fabulous branching and ramification. Barry
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Barry,
I've had the same experience, the best deodara I've seen was about 1.5m (bonsai, not yard plant). In my mind they don't make great small bonsai, and I'd say the minimum height would be around 40 - 50 cm (YMMV) Qaelan |
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