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1-Aug-2004
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Join Date: Jun-2002
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Styling Question
When is a tree at it's full height? While the tree is being developed, we are following the best trunk line upward, this way and that.... always the next new apex. At what point, if ever, do we say "this is the top" and just maintain the height. I have talked to some who say that the tree is never finished, that you always continue to go up with the trunk line. I have also read one opinion that states you must have some idea of how tall you want the tree to be when you start, so you can plan the first branch placement 2/3 up the trunk from the bottom.
I am anxious to hear what you all have to say on the subject. susieq |
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1-Aug-2004
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A bonsai tree left to himself, will grow to be a very tall tree as a new leader will form itself naturally.
It will grow the maximum this specie can be.
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1-Aug-2004
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Susieq,
I think it will depend mostly on what you think looks natural and pleasing. If you want to stay traditional, there have been recent posts on trunk to height ratio (5:1, 6:1). I am not going to recreate the discussion on that thread but I would think it depends greatly on the type of tree, style, and as I stated at the beginning--personal taste. See quote! Regards, Mark
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1-Aug-2004
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Bonsai is a terrific art form in many respects. One, is that you can determine how tall you wish your tree to be.
Some of us have a maximum tree size that we can handle and this pretty well sets the general idea of where the first branch goes. However, with various techniques a tree can be allowed to become taller and new apices developed or shorter tree can be created via a trunk chop. So, it all depends on what you want. Jerry
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Susieq wrote:
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Watch out !!! I just got back from a flying trip to Florida, where Allen Carver, of Jupiter Bonsai told me that he had put a Ficus Salicifolia (Jim Smith '89) in the ground, where it had grown to 18 feet tall, with NO taper! I guess it's about ready for a trunk chop  |
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2-Aug-2004
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I would imagine that Alan will get a few nice cuttings out of the tree. Jim Smith recently chopped a large branch off of a ficus '89 growing in the ground and has made several sumo cuttings from it.
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2-Aug-2004
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I dunno what will happen to it when they move the nursery.
If I were you, I'd try to get dibs on it. It's probably there for the asking! The potential harvest: 800 odd coasters (To be sold at BSF) and many nerifolia trees. Go for it!  |
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2-Aug-2004
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Join Date: Jun-2002
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Oh, I know that there are huge bonsai out there..... Not that they got that size by growing in a bonsai pot. Years ago at the Pottberg Ranch Nursery, Cliff had quite a few trees that they referred to as two-man and four-man bonsai.....meaning that was how many men it took to lift or move one of those beasts. Most of those things were collected, I think.
I was just wondering if the time ever comes when you just "maintain" the size of the tree in question, instead of continuing to develop it as it goes upwards.... I guess it's like some of you said, when it looks right to the grower of the tree, it has reached it's full height. susieq |
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