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Old 1-Dec-2004   #1
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Sphagnum Moss - Miracle Moss

In the civil war they used sphagnum moss to dress wounds.

I have heard that chopped sphagnum moss makes a great soil additive for freshly potted bonsai as it encourages root growth. Some people pot newly collected bonsai in 100% sphagnum moss. Laid on top of the soil of a freshly collected bonsai it helps roots form towards the surface. Wrapping trunks in it encourages an aged appearance. It is great for air layering...

On my last visit up north while marking a few larches for future collection I noticed that in that section of mostly cedar swamp there was a thick covering of sphagnum moss. Looks like I have found a good supply of this wonder moss!

I was wondering if sphagnum moss varies from locale to locale. I was also curious to any other uses that sphagnum moss has in relation to bonsai and if anyone has ever tried the technique of potting newly collected stock in 100% sphagnum moss?

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Will,

My understanding is that Michigan sphagnum moss differs a little. I know that it is a long-fibered type and favored for making a "muck" application for slabs. Randy Clark makes what he calls "Super-muck" and he specifically includes a Michigan type of peat/sphagnum moss. Apparently it works better than the standard fare. Obviously there must be some differences in sphagnum.

As far as potting anything in it exclusively, I can only say I used a LOT of it with just a little standard soil mix to save a deshojo maple that had been under-watered while I was away on vacation, in summer. A complete defoliation of the leaves (mostly crispy) and the sphagnum moss mixture soaked in a Superthrive solution did indeed SAVE the tree. I can't say for certain the moss did the trick, but I had read about the technique previously and I have to think it does have merit. I believe the constant moisture level along with less compaction of soil allows more air to circulate around the roots, and those two attributes combined help the roots, and thereby the tree, thrive. I don't know if it can be a permanent situation though.

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Exclamation Spagnum moss

I think a caution is needed here.

Although the big bags of peat moss you buy in the garden centers are often marked to the effect "spagnum moss", these are NOT the type you want to use for bonsai.

What you want is the stringy stuff usually sold in smaller packages. You often see orchids planted in it. It is usually "blonde" in color. I have never seen the word "peat" on the package.

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I think a caution is needed here.

Although the big bags of peat moss you buy in the garden centers are often marked to the effect "spagnum moss", these are NOT the type you want to use for bonsai.

What you want is the stringy stuff usually sold in smaller packages. You often see orchids planted in it. It is usually "blonde" in color. I have never seen the word "peat" on the package.



Good point Bart, however this stuff isn't labeled yet, I've been collecting it from the wild. This stuff is green and dries plae yellow/brown, I have been putting it in clear plastic bags, keeping it moist and in a shady area...it lives for a long time!
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Good point Bart, however this stuff isn't labeled yet, I've been collecting it from the wild. This stuff is green and dries plae yellow/brown, I have been putting it in clear plastic bags, keeping it moist and in a shady area...it lives for a long time!


Will:

I was aware that you were collecting from the wild. I put that caution in for those who might think they already had what they needed in their garden shed.

I don't know if you want it growing when you use it in a soil mix.

Also, I recall some talk about an infection you can get from working with this moss, along with recommendations to wear gloves. Don't know if this appleies to the living stuff.
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potted collected junipers in the stuff.the trees havent looked back since.from personnel trials,im 100per cent behind it.
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Also, I recall some talk about an infection you can get from working with this moss, along with recommendations to wear gloves. Don't know if this appleies to the living stuff.



Oh yeah, I remember reading that somewhere...thanks. Isn't it strange that they used to use it to treat wounds but now there's a infection risk?
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Will,

Are you planning to sell this stuff, or just bag it for your own use? It sure would be nice to find a supplier who offers more than just the kind in Home Depot/Lowes and such. Once again, I believe that Michigan sphagnum is a little different (fibers?) than the small bags I can find locally.

Didn't they used to treat the sphagnum moss with mustard root for the wound dressing in years past? I think this treatment was still being used in WW I. Maybe the mustard root had some kind of sterilizing property for the "infection", but I'm guessing.

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I know that I was cautioned to wear gloves, and a dust mask when working with it. Something about the spores I think would make wounds on your hands not heal, and I do remember reading about someone who actually died from inhaling the dust. Maybe the caution is more for the dried variety?

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I did a little research on this and found out a few things:

First, the germs/virus that causes the infection can only be found in the top level of sphagnum moss (this is the living sphagnum). Under a couple of inches of this is the sphagnum peat (meaning dead and decaying) levels. This material will not cause an infection. Sort of backwards, but there you go. The big bales (like three cubic feet) of sphagnum moss you see in garden centers is the sphagnum peat and basically a soil additive with nutrient value. The sphagnum used for the purpose we are discussing is in small bags and looks similar to raffia (just thinner and not as long). It is used quite a bit by florists.

As to the wound dressing with sphagnum moss, mustard root was used along with horseradish, garlic, and peppermint. All those substances are good for fighting infection and peppermint oil can be used to relieve pain from insect bites and stings. It is amazing what some simple plants can do for us. Sphagnum was used prolifically for wound dressing from the early Celts and still in use during WW I.

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