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Mcspeed

You will hear nothing but Carl and I are crazy, everyone believes they will die if left out below 50F, try it you'll like it. Just remember Carl is in California, and mine weren't outside but in a closed in porch, kept between 30 and 40 degrees F. Others in my club do the same thing and the trees are fine.

Not to say you have to put them out either, I have done several for 6-7 years inside for the winter and they do fine as well, I would put them in the same catagory as Chinese Elms, just a bit less hardy.

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lee_0

i cant seem to find the information you talked about clrosner. regarding the bag techniuqe, could you push me in the right direction please

Mcspeed

It was a recent post, if you click on Carls name you can look at his recent posts, somewhere in the last week there was a discussion about making an ICU for sick bonsai.

Here it is - http://forum.bonsaitalk.com/f14/icu...ee-s-28830.html

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lee_0

[QUOTE=Mcspeed]You will hear nothing but Carl and I are crazy

If you say it works then i believe you ( honnest) the thing that worries me if the different temps we have over here from day to day, if we had some steady temps i would think about putting outside although i know they dont like to be moved, but am willing to try for the sake of its well being

lee_0

Cheers Mcspeed will look now. thanks

lee_0

Very interesting read , think that's the way im going to go, off to the diy store soon.
thankyou kindly for the advice, much appreciated.Lee

Mcspeed

Lee at this point you are probably better off waiting the week or two til the weather settles down a bit, going from warm and toasty to brrrr may get you a new set of leaves, but once out and acclimated to the daily weather they will be fine.

You will probably need to do the same kind of protection for the winter as I did, no wind and set temp range, which I accomplished the hard way with plastic bottles of warm or hot water as a heat source for those real cold nights(like -10F outside low 20s in the porch). Or move to California

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lee_0

The latter sounds best

clrosner

Just to give you an idea how to set up an ICU, I've emclosed some pictures.

I constructed mine out of an old (large) milk container. I taped plastic around all sides except for the door, which I placed a piece of stiff plastic and made a hinge from tape. I place any of my trees in the ICU, if they look sickly. Usually after a repotting session. For some reason, my Fukien teas do not like their roots messed with. But, I, also want to keep the trees small, so I prune and then put them in a mini-hot house. I open the ICU every morning for a few minutes to exchange the air (which avoids fungus growth), and then I close the ICU for another 24 hours. I hope this helps.

If the tree is too large for the milk container, I use stretcher bars (the kind available in most art stores to stretch a canvas (for painting a picture). The bars come in many sizes and can be fitted together to form a side. It takes about twenty bars to make a box, which can be covered with plastic as seen in two of the attached pictures. Any questions Just ask!!

Good luck!!!

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