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18-May-2004
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melt the clay down and add a certain amount of olive oil to make the clay more like actual paste. This is what Ive been using mainly because im too lazy to buy the good stuff.
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18-May-2004
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jhill, you're gonna have to come over here and scrape the clay off my hornbeam. It's been on there for years since I first tried that modeling clay idea, and I have never been able to remove it. I think it would take lighter fluid to get it off. Bottom line is I think there is a better place to save a couple bucks. Regards, Matt DISLOSURE: TreeBay Bonsai Tools & Supplies sells cut paste, therefore anything I say should be subject to some measure of scrutiny and mistrust. 
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19-May-2004
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 I would love to come over Matt. Have you tried removing it early in the morning or when it is cool out??
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19-May-2004
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Better yet Matt I'll take that hornbeam off your hands and clean it
Very nice tree indeed!! Jofun
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20-May-2004
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This stuff is just great value for money already. The cut paste lasts for years and years and years in the tub. I'm still on the first tub, which must by now be well over 15 years old!
It's maybe 20 years old - and has out-lived many many trees... Jerry Amsterdam
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20-May-2004
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Is modeling clay that much cheaper than cut paste? Even if both were equal in effectiveness, would it be worth the effort to mix it and adjust it in order to save a dollar or two?
I have used Vaseline but am planning on buying some of the Japanese stuff. |
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20-May-2004
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BonsaiBen:
The clay is cheaper I believe and it is easy to find. I think I paid around a dollar a cube. I mix them to match the trees bark so the wound will be less noticable. Elmers glue is real easy to find. They have it in brown now also. I use what ever is around at the time. Most of the time I use nothing at all unless it is a sizeable cut. The Japanese cut paste is great stuff don't get me wrong, and I'm not cheap . I just make do with what I can get locally.Jofun
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20-May-2004
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It's like Exxon on a pelican, morning, noon and nighttime too. Regards, Matt
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21-May-2004
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3-Jun-2004
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I personally seal large cuts made to remove branches, ones that are shaped to improve the scar produced. After shaving these with a gouge and grafting knife (sharper than a razor!), I use the cut putty in a tub. Seems that making it up with clay and oil, etc, would be counter-intuitive for a lazy man!
For trunk chops, I have learned from my sensei and had some success myself, I cut perpendicular to the trunk and don't seal it. The stub will dry out and you will shape it later to conform to wherever those pesky buds pop out. I have made trunk chops at an angle before and never once did the buds appear on the high side of the cut! I simply had to make do with what I got and chop much lower. Bad idea. Chris |
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